Lofarl Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Anyone else used this yet? It's equally fascinating and scary at the same time. I did notice that one of the answers it gave was wrong. I told it so and it actually got the right answer. Enjoy skynet before it turns. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) It's becoming a big problem with university students using it to write submissions for them. Of course the penalties for doing so have also become more serious. In certain fields it will see you punted from the course and, depending on the course, will ensure you won't get in to any other UK institution on the same course. In saying that, it getting harder for the universities to spot such plagiarism. What will probably happen is that for each submission, someone at the uni will ask ChatGPT to write it then submit that to Turnitin. Edited February 25, 2023 by DA Baracus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 If you have interacted with this or one of the AI image generators you have directly contributed to the downfall of civilisation. I hope the three likes you got on Twitter were worth it. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: If you have interacted with this or one of the AI image generators you have directly contributed to the downfall of civilisation. I hope the three likes you got on Twitter were worth it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 10 hours ago, ICTChris said: Gets 0 points from me for that answer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Other Foot Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 11 hours ago, DA Baracus said: It's becoming a big problem with university students using it to write submissions for them. Of course the penalties for doing so have also become more serious. In certain fields it will see you punted from the course and, depending on the course, will ensure you won't get in to any other UK institution on the same course. In saying that, it getting harder for the universities to spot such plagiarism. What will probably happen is that for each submission, someone at the uni will ask ChatGPT to write it then submit that to Turnitin. Could someone marking an essay copy and paste it into chatGPT to ask if it was the creator? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 34 minutes ago, The Other Foot said: Could someone marking an essay copy and paste it into chatGPT to ask if it was the creator? Yes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Other Foot Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 3 hours ago, DA Baracus said: Yes But then presumably the student could change a few words around and chatGPt wouldn’t recognise it as it’s own creation anymore 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Other Foot said: But then presumably the student could change a few words around and chatGPt wouldn’t recognise it as it’s own creation anymore A student could do that then reference Chatgpt as an information source and all will be fine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 19 hours ago, The Other Foot said: But then presumably the student could change a few words around and chatGPt wouldn’t recognise it as it’s own creation anymore You have no idea how many students think that by changing the words, they can get away with plagiarism or contract cheating. In some cases they don't even see it as wrong ("it is my own words") 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I added the extension to Chrome the other day so when you search for something it starts typing out the definition. The definition is pretty much the wikipedia page. Lot of fucking shite IMO. Yours etc Hal 9000 PS Students cheat all the time, Turnitin is a waste of time and can easily be gamed, employers dont care about degree classifications so can tell if youre a lying cheating c**t anyway. And if you are, theres a job with the Tory party waiting for you. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkay said: I added the extension to Chrome the other day so when you search for something it starts typing out the definition. The definition is pretty much the wikipedia page. Lot of fucking shite IMO. Yours etc Hal 9000 PS Students cheat all the time, Turnitin is a waste of time and can easily be gamed, employers dont care about degree classifications so can tell if youre a lying cheating c**t anyway. And if you are, theres a job with the Tory party waiting for you. I wouldn't agree about Turnitin. Through paraphrasing students can reduce their percentage matching and believe that it's job done from there. But they always mess up, every time. I've been in disciplinaries with students showing a Turnitin match of less than 1% to a source paper. They often don't understand how we find the originals. And if a student manages to get their paper down to 0% similarity, that's just a big red flag so we go hunting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venti Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 On 25/02/2023 at 22:28, DA Baracus said: It's becoming a big problem with university students using it to write submissions for them. Of course the penalties for doing so have also become more serious. In certain fields it will see you punted from the course and, depending on the course, will ensure you won't get in to any other UK institution on the same course. In saying that, it getting harder for the universities to spot such plagiarism. What will probably happen is that for each submission, someone at the uni will ask ChatGPT to write it then submit that to Turnitin. Surely the penalty should be a knife-arm through the back of the skull while drinking a carton of milk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 33 minutes ago, scottsdad said: I wouldn't agree about Turnitin. Through paraphrasing students can reduce their percentage matching and believe that it's job done from there. But they always mess up, every time. I've been in disciplinaries with students showing a Turnitin match of less than 1% to a source paper. They often don't understand how we find the originals. And if a student manages to get their paper down to 0% similarity, that's just a big red flag so we go hunting. So somewhere between 0% - 1% and you're legit anything else you're a cheating b*****d. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Empty It said: So somewhere between 0% - 1% and you're legit anything else you're a cheating b*****d. I assume they are all cheating b******s unless proven otherwise. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 minute ago, scottsdad said: I assume they are all cheating b******s unless proven otherwise. Guilty until proven innocent, I like it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_&_T Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) On 25/02/2023 at 22:28, DA Baracus said: It's becoming a big problem with university students using it to write submissions for them. Of course the penalties for doing so have also become more serious. In certain fields it will see you punted from the course and, depending on the course, will ensure you won't get in to any other UK institution on the same course. In saying that, it getting harder for the universities to spot such plagiarism. What will probably happen is that for each submission, someone at the uni will ask ChatGPT to write it then submit that to Turnitin. I know people at university who paid others to write some of their essays, anyway. The only way to be confident it is the work of the student is for the work to be done under examination conditions, and even then there have been reports of students having paid other people to sit their exams for them! https://thetab.com/uk/2021/06/08/students-are-paying-private-tutors-thousands-to-sit-online-exams-for-them-208792 Edited February 27, 2023 by G_&_T 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 hour ago, G_&_T said: I know people at university who paid others to write some of their essays, anyway. The only way to be confident it is the work of the student is for the work to be done under examination conditions, and even then there have been reports of students having paid other people to sit their exams for them! https://thetab.com/uk/2021/06/08/students-are-paying-private-tutors-thousands-to-sit-online-exams-for-them-208792 I've had a couple of dissertation cases where students used essay mills. The problem is, they assume they're getting top notch work. What they tend to get is rubbish. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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