Alan Twelve Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 37 minutes ago, 54_and_counting said: This is what's going to cost scotland, his preference to picking pals, ralston and jack should be absolutely nowhere near that squad for starters, last friday if he started with Gunn Tierney, hendry, porteous, Robertson Mcginn, gilmour, mctominay Christie, adams (both as inside 10's) Shankland Absolutely no chance the game goes anything like it did last Friday, that line up gives protection in the middle, a close 3 that can keep the ball for more than 3 seconds, 2 mobile 10's who can run the channels plus press kroos and andrich Even if one of the german attacking mids break off and drift wide to double up with their fullbacks, the midfield 3 Scotland have can cover that and still be man for man in the middle of the park Put the deckchairs over here and there's no fucking way the ship'll sink. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 8 minutes ago, Alan Twelve said: Put the deckchairs over here and there's no fucking way the ship'll sink. It would still have sunk, but at least gave them time to get the woman and children off first 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pub car king Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 There may be something in the psychological aspect. Friday night a lot of them looked like they had just been beamed onto the pitch from another planet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bobo Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 David Moyes talking a lot of sense on Talksport just now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bobo Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 36 minutes ago, pub car king said: There may be something in the psychological aspect. Friday night a lot of them looked like they had just been beamed onto the pitch from another planet. Saying on Talksport that they are surprised that we do not have a psychologist with the team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted June 19 Author Share Posted June 19 (edited) Just listened to Clarke's press conference. Straight forward, no lengthy answers, no fluff and no insight. I'd rather that to be honest going into the game. Edited June 19 by 2426255 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 14 hours ago, 54_and_counting said: Even if he was the best CB, arguably the drop off from tierney to say mckenna isnt as much as the drop off from any right back to ralston Moving tierney to right back immediately improves that position by a massive amount, a lot more than the loss of tierney to mckenna is in centre half Yeah I would have been tempted to try Tierney at RB if Porteous hadn't been sent off but I don't think having 2 new CB's in is going to help either. I also think Robertson has been a fair bit better for Scotland having Tierney beside him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketman Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 1 hour ago, PB1994 said: Slightly different expectations though. Georgia are here under no pressure at all. The achievement for them is even being here in the first place. There is a general expectation on us, from Scottish fans and media, to be looking to qualify for the last 16. Georgia can afford to go out and give it a go against anyone they face and if they end up with 0 points and a couple of heavy defeats its no big deal. Scotland can't afford to do that. Plus they were playing Turkey and not Germany. Not trying to take anything away from how awful our performance was but there is a massive gap in the level of opposition faced. if we had played against Germany as Georgia did against Turkey, we would not have been pumped. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB1994 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 16 minutes ago, Pocketman said: if we had played against Germany as Georgia did against Turkey, we would not have been pumped. Germany would have pumped the majority of the teams in the competition playing the way they did on Friday night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 37 minutes ago, gannonball said: Yeah I would have been tempted to try Tierney at RB if Porteous hadn't been sent off but I don't think having 2 new CB's in is going to help either. I also think Robertson has been a fair bit better for Scotland having Tierney beside him. Think Robertson has enjoyed knowing if he goes up the park tierney will cover, he'd get that same cover if clarke played the 3 sitting mids as the left one is tasked with slotting in behind when the fullback goes up the park 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piehutt Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 I've been a big fan of Clarke and think he has done a good job for us, but tonight is a big game for him and I think if we get beat or don't turn up again, a lot of people will turn on him. Having watched the tournament unfold after Friday night, I can't help feeling it's been more like a regular tournament where we are just watching it on tele. Friday was so bad with virtually nothing to shout about, other than a good showing by the fans. However, having also seen a lot of teams who qualified less comfortably than us, put up good showings and a few get very decent results - I am a bit more hopeful that we just caught Germany on a bad night and they would have steam rollered anyone. Especially having got the early goal. Lets just hope Clarke picks the right team and we can find some moments of inspiration against a team who looked very good on Saturday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 39 minutes ago, 54_and_counting said: Think Robertson has enjoyed knowing if he goes up the park tierney will cover, he'd get that same cover if clarke played the 3 sitting mids as the left one is tasked with slotting in behind when the fullback goes up the park I think Tierney is more prone to lap round him at times and has more pace than our average centre back that allows Robertson to bomb forward like at Liverpool. I used to think Robertson was a bit underwhelming for Scotland but less so since Tierneys been used as a LCB. But having said all that if Clarke starts him tonight at RB I wouldnt object. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galajambo Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 3 hours ago, PB1994 said: Slightly different expectations though. Georgia are here under no pressure at all. The achievement for them is even being here in the first place. There is a general expectation on us, from Scottish fans and media, to be looking to qualify for the last 16. Georgia can afford to go out and give it a go against anyone they face and if they end up with 0 points and a couple of heavy defeats its no big deal. Scotland can't afford to do that. Plus they were playing Turkey and not Germany. Not trying to take anything away from how awful our performance was but there is a massive gap in the level of opposition faced. I can't make up my mind if we were seriously shit, or if Germany were the best I've seen in the first round of fixtures, I think (hope) it's the latter, and as another poster put it, if we played the same way Georgia did against Germany, then it wouldn't have been anywhere near as bad. 2 hours ago, Big Bobo said: David Moyes talking a lot of sense on Talksport just now. And yet, some folk are scoffing at him becoming Scotland manager, I'd take him all day long! He wouldn't have his favourites for a start, he would play the in form players, and his sides are generally hard to break down. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB1994 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 10 minutes ago, Galajambo said: I can't make up my mind if we were seriously shit, or if Germany were the best I've seen in the first round of fixtures, I think (hope) it's the latter, and as another poster put it, if we played the same way Georgia did against Germany, then it wouldn't have been anywhere near as bad. I think it was both. We were absolutely terrible and Germany were very very good. I don't think Georgia would have played the same way they did against Turkey if they were playing Germany. It was never likely we were going to get a result in that first game but the manner of performance was by far the most worrying thing. If we play like we did on Friday against Switzerland and Hungary you can't really argue with people wanting Clarke to lose his job. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted June 19 Author Share Posted June 19 14 minutes ago, Galajambo said: And yet, some folk are scoffing at him becoming Scotland manager, I'd take him all day long! He wouldn't have his favourites for a start, he would play the in form players, and his sides are generally hard to break down. Sound familiar? You stick Steve Clarke's name in there and no-one would bat an eyelid. Quote Moyes' stubbornness has always been a lingering problem among fans. As has his consistent defensive approach or his obsession with a small squad, only for it to bite the Hammers in the backside routinely in their 2022 and 2024 Europa League and Premier League pushes. Moyes has also often been accused of trying to fit square pegs into round holes when it comes to picking his match day starting XI, and his clear lack of trust in his bench and the Hammers' very impressive youth prospects has resulted in the constant flogging of the same 11-14 players. To make matters worse, it's not only a small squad - it's an ageing one too. It's the second oldest in the Premier League. "If I am being honest, if I had my way I would have smaller squads anyway. I would rather have a smaller squad. I always have done. You can get more problems with a bigger squad. Having a smaller squad isn’t bad." Moyes https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/david-moyes-west-ham-respect-32648143 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Calder Lion Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Clarke's responses to some basic and inoffensive questions there on BBC1 just now were a disgrace. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewanandmoreagain Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 2 minutes ago, East Calder Lion said: Clarke's responses to some basic and inoffensive questions there on BBC1 just now were a disgrace. WGS disgrace level ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 2 minutes ago, East Calder Lion said: Clarke's responses to some basic and inoffensive questions there on BBC1 just now were a disgrace. I didn't notice any difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 5 hours ago, Galajambo said: And yet, some folk are scoffing at him becoming Scotland manager, I'd take him all day long! He wouldn't have his favourites for a start, he would play the in form players, and his sides are generally hard to break down. One of the few things Steve Clarke has going for him is that he’s not David Moyes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Deans Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Ralston. Bring back Stephen ODonnell 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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