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Scratch the Sky Sports surface and English football at League level is becoming a joke.

The Premier League has two teams with a points deduction, possibly with one to be added to and another cut on appeal. There's a very good chance we'll finish the season not knowing who has been relegated. The champions of five of the last six seasons are under investigation and seem very likely to be guilty of cheating on a large scale. They have a club owned by out-and-out murderers. If that was our league, people would be losing their minds at the tin-pottery of it all.

Below that, the team top of the Championship have been charged with cheating, while the future of a whole load of clubs, most prominently Reading, is far from secure. Were it not for a play-off final win, Aston Villa would probably be Reading at this stage as well.

And next season we'll just see more of this, as the spending is far from under control and clubs are trying more and more imaginative (dishonest) ways of getting round the rules. Not to mention the likelihood of the Championship winners starting the season in the Premier League on minus points.

Absolute nonsense.

 

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On 22/03/2024 at 08:44, VincentGuerin said:

Scratch the Sky Sports surface and English football at League level is becoming a joke.

The Premier League has two teams with a points deduction, possibly with one to be added to and another cut on appeal. There's a very good chance we'll finish the season not knowing who has been relegated. The champions of five of the last six seasons are under investigation and seem very likely to be guilty of cheating on a large scale. They have a club owned by out-and-out murderers. If that was our league, people would be losing their minds at the tin-pottery of it all.

Below that, the team top of the Championship have been charged with cheating, while the future of a whole load of clubs, most prominently Reading, is far from secure. Were it not for a play-off final win, Aston Villa would probably be Reading at this stage as well.

And next season we'll just see more of this, as the spending is far from under control and clubs are trying more and more imaginative (dishonest) ways of getting round the rules. Not to mention the likelihood of the Championship winners starting the season in the Premier League on minus points.

Absolute nonsense.

 

You missed out the current champions and most dominant side of the past few years are facing over 100 charges for cheating. And they seemingly won't be heard for at least another year.

So while the bottom of the league is full of tin pot deductions if you are at the top it seems you can do whatever you want.

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2 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

You missed out the current champions and most dominant side of the past few years are facing over 100 charges for cheating. And they seemingly won't be heard for at least another year.

So while the bottom of the league is full of tin pot deductions if you are at the top it seems you can do whatever you want.

Didn't miss that at all, to be fair.

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Just now, VincentGuerin said:

Didn't miss that at all, to be fair.

My point was more about the huge disparity about how clubs are treated despite seemingly being in the same league rather than just the scale of city's cheating.

#TheBig6 member Chelsea seems to also be immune to Financial Fair Play despite a lot of very dodgy shit happening at Stamford Bridge. So while the Premier League will go through Forest's books with a fine tooth comb they don't seem to be in a hurry to investigate what is going on at more prominent clubs.

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2 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

My point was more about the huge disparity about how clubs are treated despite seemingly being in the same league rather than just the scale of city's cheating.

#TheBig6 member Chelsea seems to also be immune to Financial Fair Play despite a lot of very dodgy shit happening at Stamford Bridge. So while the Premier League will go through Forest's books with a fine tooth comb they don't seem to be in a hurry to investigate what is going on at more prominent clubs.

Chelsea are a shambles, but I think the issue is that, so far, they've been smart enough to float within the rules. Generally using amortisation, loan fees, selling on youth etc to do so.

If the rules stay similar to what they are, they're likely to run into massive bother in the next few years.

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52 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

My point was more about the huge disparity about how clubs are treated despite seemingly being in the same league rather than just the scale of city's cheating.

#TheBig6 member Chelsea seems to also be immune to Financial Fair Play despite a lot of very dodgy shit happening at Stamford Bridge. So while the Premier League will go through Forest's books with a fine tooth comb they don't seem to be in a hurry to investigate what is going on at more prominent clubs.


The other clubs admitted their guilt, City didn't and therefore they have to go through the whole process. This is City's MO in general, to obfuscate as much as possible, which is what got them off with the UEFA charges they were clearly guilty of. Therefore the Premier League are having to make sure everything is watertight before they proceed.

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10 minutes ago, Barry Ferguson's Hat said:

FFP is a joke.

Armchair fans are the lifeblood of football at the top level and absolutely no attention is being paid to their concerns.

People want to see the best players at the best teams.

Exactly. How are City meant to earn legitimately through shirt sales and Instant noodle partnerships in South East Asia if they are not allowed to sign the best players?

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3 hours ago, Highlandmagar said:

Xabi Alonso staying at Leverkusen. Who next for Liverpool?

Guardiola for the banter. Man City charged and demoted to League Two, he leaves citing the "if they have lied to me, I will leave" speech when the charges were first announced, heads explode all over the North West of England. 

Or the Sporting Lisbon manager. One of the two.

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20 minutes ago, sparky88 said:

Letting clubs appeal against financial punishments is daft.

Letting clubs straight back into the Scottish professional football league structure despite being liquidated having cheated financially for decades is daft too.

Jings - there were some people in power in Scottish football trying to get the new club straight back in the top division. 

It seems the more debt clubs incur the less you get punished. 🤦 

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On 27/03/2024 at 17:36, VincentGuerin said:

Chelsea are a shambles, but I think the issue is that, so far, they've been smart enough to float within the rules. Generally using amortisation, loan fees, selling on youth etc to do so.

If the rules stay similar to what they are, they're likely to run into massive bother in the next few years.

They basically need almost every single one of their extremely expensive speculative punts on promising young players to come good.. 

 

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