accies1874 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Gianfranco said: There was a stat that came up during the game saying Man Utd got one point from away fixtures against the top nine sides last season. I thought they'd made a mistake as I remembered them getting a point against Chelsea... only to remember that Chelsea finished 12th last season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Perhaps the funniest thing about the Man United game was the cameras cutting to McTominay like they used to do with Ferguson. Defos a case of a player getting better by not playing, but I'm all for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Pound for Pound, Antony has to be the worst #Barclays signing ever, he can't even spell his name right & is somewhat useless. Ally Mitchell would do a better job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, accies1874 said: Perhaps the funniest thing about the Man United game was the cameras cutting to McTominay like they used to do with Ferguson. Defos a case of a player getting better by not playing, but I'm all for it. I suppose even in England his stock will have risen slightly due to his international performances. If United were actually on an upwards trajectory and improving their side there would be little said about McTominay being left out but when they look no better, and possibly worse, than they did last season then the thought that they might as well give him another go will always be there. As Neville said in commentary, it's clear Ten Hag is finished with him and he's unlikely to even get any decent playing time off the bench this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds are Forever Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 20 minutes ago, accies1874 said: Perhaps the funniest thing about the Man United game was the cameras cutting to McTominay like they used to do with Ferguson. Defos a case of a player getting better by not playing, but I'm all for it. I think McTominay will still get games with them having the Champions League this season. Managers will leave players in the cold in August to get them to leave but if he's still there come September he'll still play 20+ games this season. It's an ideal situation from a Scottish point of view, plays enough games to still be fit but means he is fresh for the international games and reduces likelihood of injury. Same is definitely true for Kieran Tierney, from a Scottish point of view I think the worst thing would be for him to move to a team where he would play every week because he'd be injured half the season. Far better for us if he plays the odd game here and there and is then fit to play 3 games in 10 days for us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds are Forever Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 8 hours ago, Forest_Fifer said: Having seen Mac Allisters sending off earlier, how the f**k did Newcastle keep 11 on the park v Man City? Thought that was a ridiculous red card. And it was never a penalty either. They both seem to fall into that category where everyone knows they are wrong, but they aren't 'wrong enough' to be overturned, which just seems an absurd way to officiate a game. Webb seems to be big on not 're-refereeing the game', which in essence means accepting wrong decisions, for what purpose I'm unsure. I get it for random irrelevant fouls on the halfway line, but for penalties and red cards then surely the whole point of VAR is to get involved and correct wrong decisions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahemps Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, Diamonds are Forever said: I think McTominay will still get games with them having the Champions League this season. Managers will leave players in the cold in August to get them to leave but if he's still there come September he'll still play 20+ games this season. It's an ideal situation from a Scottish point of view, plays enough games to still be fit but means he is fresh for the international games and reduces likelihood of injury. Same is definitely true for Kieran Tierney, from a Scottish point of view I think the worst thing would be for him to move to a team where he would play every week because he'd be injured half the season. Far better for us if he plays the odd game here and there and is then fit to play 3 games in 10 days for us. I think this is a true point. It is a real shame for Tierney but I don't think he can play 30+ games a season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 36 minutes ago, Diamonds are Forever said: Thought that was a ridiculous red card. And it was never a penalty either. They both seem to fall into that category where everyone knows they are wrong, but they aren't 'wrong enough' to be overturned, which just seems an absurd way to officiate a game. Webb seems to be big on not 're-refereeing the game', which in essence means accepting wrong decisions, for what purpose I'm unsure. I get it for random irrelevant fouls on the halfway line, but for penalties and red cards then surely the whole point of VAR is to get involved and correct wrong decisions. Watching the highlights there was a few softer than shite penalties given yesterday. Attacker and defender going for the ball side-by-side and the attacker falls to the ground. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 11 hours ago, TheScarf said: There’s about 10 strikers every summer that United could easily afford that would improve them and they never sign any of them. I have no idea why they’re determined to stick with Rashford, best on the left wing, and Martial, almost permanently injured. They’d be a lot more successful if they signed a proven goalscorer. This is an issue I have with most PL clubs. They spend millions on players from every part of the world, but it's usually after they've played in Europe for another club. Why aren't there scouts better at spotting these guys earlier? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Sergeant Wilson said: This is an issue I have with most PL clubs. They spend millions on players from every part of the world, but it's usually after they've played in Europe for another club. Why aren't there scouts better at spotting these guys earlier? Arrogance probably. A case of ‘you do the hard bit of finding these guys, and we’ll pay you not as much as we pay for English players, and you’ll thank us for it’. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, TheScarf said: Arrogance probably. A case of ‘you do the hard bit of finding these guys, and we’ll pay you not as much as we pay for English players, and you’ll thank us for it’. There might be logic in waiting to see if potential is fulfilled, but it's an expensive way to do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: There might be logic in waiting to see if potential is fulfilled, but it's an expensive way to do it. Indeed. No Barclays team is going to take a punt on a 19 year old Norwegian playing in their national league. They leave that to an Austrian team, then a German team, then they’re like ‘thanks, we’ll take it from here.’ Definitely the most expensive way, I think there’s also definitely an arrogance/muscle flexing element to it. It’s the same with the South Americans and Asians who eventually make it to England. Let some other mugs nurture them then we’ll step in. A lot of Barclays teams scouting networks seem to end at Dover. Or the classic ‘Oh he was decent for Benfica/Napoli/Sevilla/Leipzig against us in the Champions League, make the offer tomorrow’. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Some goal from Mitoma yesterday. Wouldn't be surprised if he was the next one to leave Brighton for huge money. Also, it's becoming comical how dreadful Wolves are at finishing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Diamonds are Forever said: Thought that was a ridiculous red card. And it was never a penalty either. They both seem to fall into that category where everyone knows they are wrong, but they aren't 'wrong enough' to be overturned, which just seems an absurd way to officiate a game. Webb seems to be big on not 're-refereeing the game', which in essence means accepting wrong decisions, for what purpose I'm unsure. I get it for random irrelevant fouls on the halfway line, but for penalties and red cards then surely the whole point of VAR is to get involved and correct wrong decisions. What’s the point of VAR when it doesn’t overturn nonsense decisions like those? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buchan30 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 20 minutes ago, Zetterlund said: Some goal from Mitoma yesterday. Wouldn't be surprised if he was the next one to leave Brighton for huge money. Also, it's becoming comical how dreadful Wolves are at finishing. With his shirt being pulled and then being pushed as he went into the box, he done so well just to stay on his feet. How many other players at the shirt pull, would have just hit the deck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, buchan30 said: With his shirt being pulled and then being pushed as he went into the box, he done so well just to stay on his feet. How many other players at the shirt pull, would have just hit the deck. Aye, I love to see it. No doubt if he hadn't scored he'd be accused of being 'too honest'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 12 hours ago, TheScarf said: There’s about 10 strikers every summer that United could easily afford that would improve them and they never sign any of them. I have no idea why they’re determined to stick with Rashford, best on the left wing, and Martial, almost permanently injured. They’d be a lot more successful if they signed a proven goalscorer. It's staggering. They don't even need a good footballer, just a goal scorer. I'm talking Kris Boyd level here. They keep signing boys who will work hard a chase channeld. Leave that to Garnacho or Rashford and just get a boy that everytime its near the box it's a goal. 3 hours ago, Moomintroll said: Pound for Pound, Antony has to be the worst #Barclays signing ever, he can't even spell his name right & is somewhat useless. He's not even in the debate. Lukaku springs immediately to mind. 45 minutes ago, Zetterlund said: Some goal from Mitoma yesterday. Wouldn't be surprised if he was the next one to leave Brighton for huge money. Man City were apparently lodging interest before the season started. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) I do wonder if there's an element of favouritism for Messi in players minds. If I shared a pitch with Messi and Ronaldo (he'd be so lucky, eh, eh) I fear I'd be a little awestruck and afraid I'd hurt such magnificence in Messi. I wouldn't even bat an eyelid if I finished Ronaldo's career, the rapist bastirt. Edited August 20, 2023 by Derry Alli 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Good finish from John McGinn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 ‘Mr Barclays’ John McGinn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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