Russell Brand - In Plain Sight

[CarrbridgeSaintee]

On 05/10/2023 at 16:57, Jacksgranda said:

We have wine and wafers in the Presbyterian Church. Well, Ribena and shortbread...

We use Port  

[ICTChris]

When all else fails….

https://www.foxnews.com/media/comedian-russell-brand-announces-he-getting-baptized-im-taking-plunge

 

[BFTD]

10 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

When all else fails….

https://www.foxnews.com/media/comedian-russell-brand-announces-he-getting-baptized-im-taking-plunge

Of course; got to plan for the future.

I never liked him much, but I'd no idea he managed his image so cynically. Call me naive.

[Ross.]

13 hours ago, ICTChris said:

When all else fails….

https://www.foxnews.com/media/comedian-russell-brand-announces-he-getting-baptized-im-taking-plunge

 

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What’s been explained to me is, it’s an opportunity to die and be reborn. An opportunity to leave the past behind and be reborn

Writes itself, really.

[ICTChris]

Russell on a normal one

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/DecodingTheGurus/s/xWsaGOYD2C
 

 

[Busta Nut]

I mean, religion is the proven grifters choice of a couple thousand years eh?

[Florentine_Pogen]

12 minutes ago, Busta Nut said:

I mean, religion is the proven grifters choice of a couple thousand years eh?

The proven grifter's final throw of the dice.

The end grift.

[topcat(The most tip top)]

1 hour ago, Busta Nut said:

I mean, religion is the proven grifters choice of a couple thousand years eh?

Whoever described patriotism as the last refuge of the scoundrel had forgotten about piety 

[Florentine_Pogen]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/may/14/russell-brand-baptised-thames-sins-washed-away-criminal-allegations

"A hazmat dredger, please, to the stretch of the River Thames in which Russell Brand was recently baptised, in an event apparently conducted by TV adventurer and chief scout Bear Grylls. I know, it’s incredible: Thames Water is no longer responsible for the biggest piece of shit in the river."

[Florentine_Pogen]

Marina Hyde might be surprised to learn that this Baptist minister shares much of her opinion on the baptism of Russell Brand (So Russell Brand was baptised in the Thames, and all his sins were washed away. Cheaper than a lawyer, I suppose, 14 May).

Baptism in the name of the Holy Trinity does indeed signify the washing away of sin, since it marks the transition into a new life in Christ. But this does not exculpate the individual from the earthly consequences of their wrongdoings. Quite the contrary: baptism is performed on the basis of repentance – which will be marked by a willingness to participate in due process of law, where that is needful, and/or to make amends, where that is appropriate. Repentance, in other words, is a facing up to sin and the harms we have done, not a get-out-of-jail-free card.

So through baptism, a person lays claim to the grace God offers, securing forgiveness in the court of heaven. It has no bearing upon legal process. A misunderstanding of this distinction lies behind the appalling litany of ecclesial cover-ups of abusers in recent years. Because genuine Christian baptism marks an individual’s rebirth into new life in Christ, and their entry into the family of God, it is something that Christians rejoice to see. But the “celebrification” of baptism is troubling. A tree is known by its fruit, said Jesus. I, for one, will feel more confident in the authenticity of Mr Brand’s conversion in a few years’ time, if and when there is clear evidence of the work of the Holy Spirit in his life.
Rev Dr Helen Paynter
Director, Centre for the Study of Bible and Violence

[carpetmonster]

11 minutes ago, Florentine_Pogen said:

Marina Hyde might be surprised to learn that this Baptist minister shares much of her opinion on the baptism of Russell Brand (So Russell Brand was baptised in the Thames, and all his sins were washed away. Cheaper than a lawyer, I suppose, 14 May).

Baptism in the name of the Holy Trinity does indeed signify the washing away of sin, since it marks the transition into a new life in Christ. But this does not exculpate the individual from the earthly consequences of their wrongdoings. Quite the contrary: baptism is performed on the basis of repentance – which will be marked by a willingness to participate in due process of law, where that is needful, and/or to make amends, where that is appropriate. Repentance, in other words, is a facing up to sin and the harms we have done, not a get-out-of-jail-free card.

So through baptism, a person lays claim to the grace God offers, securing forgiveness in the court of heaven. It has no bearing upon legal process. A misunderstanding of this distinction lies behind the appalling litany of ecclesial cover-ups of abusers in recent years. Because genuine Christian baptism marks an individual’s rebirth into new life in Christ, and their entry into the family of God, it is something that Christians rejoice to see. But the “celebrification” of baptism is troubling. A tree is known by its fruit, said Jesus. I, for one, will feel more confident in the authenticity of Mr Brand’s conversion in a few years’ time, if and when there is clear evidence of the work of the Holy Spirit in his life.
Rev Dr Helen Paynter
Director, Centre for the Study of Bible and Violence

Probably won’t count if Bear Grylls did it and it was his own piss instead of holy water tho.