Tony Wonder Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 So ridiculously frustrating. Sat too deep, but equally we were in zero danger so can see how we slipped into that mindset. Rangers were brutal and I don't think Clark had an actual save to make before the penalty. The penalty probably is one, but if the ref hasn't given it, is it really enough for VAR to pull it back? It's the kind of foul that happens every week without intervention. Sure we'd have gotten the same treatment if it had been us 1 down in the 90th minute at Ibrox though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 22 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: It feels like I’ve seen this movie before 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 13 minutes ago, MazzyStar said: Hearts’d it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, Tony Wonder said: So ridiculously frustrating. Sat too deep, but equally we were in zero danger so can see how we slipped into that mindset. Rangers were brutal and I don't think Clark had an actual save to make before the penalty. The penalty probably is one, but if the ref hasn't given it, is it really enough for VAR to pull it back? It's the kind of foul that happens every week without intervention. Sure we'd have gotten the same treatment if it had been us 1 down in the 90th minute at Ibrox though. Your manager reckons it wasnt a pen - 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wonder Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Leith Green said: Your manager reckons it wasnt a pen - Because he thinks there was a foul before it. Which there probably was, but again you don't get that at ibrox. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoose Rice Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Dear jambos, I've found what you lost in injury time. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 At absolutely no point thought we were going to win that game, and as soon as the second penalty was given knew we'd lose it. It's not even a game you can really take the positives from, as these games are so unlike any other performances in a season as to be irrelevant. Look at Aberdeen since they won at Ibrox, for example. Going so deep right from the start of the second half was unwise. Of course I understand the thinking, and it's absolutely correct that Rangers were never scoring if the penalty wasn't given. But, you give up that much possession and territory against a team with better players, and the chances of a moment of magic, or a mistake, or a penalty etc go through the roof. You're asking for trouble. Giving up our threat ultimately doomed us. The first half was excellent. It probably is a penalty. We should have had a free-kick at the other end of the park before it. It's the wee decisions that kill you in Glasgow. Said it for years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 I was happy with the team Naismith picked and they look well organised. The team he picked against Celtic was a mistake but this was more like it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazz1903 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 22 minutes ago, Hoose Rice said: Dear jambos, I've found what you lost in injury time. Mind this wan? LOL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 42 minutes ago, Tony Wonder said: So ridiculously frustrating. Sat too deep, but equally we were in zero danger so can see how we slipped into that mindset. Rangers were brutal and I don't think Clark had an actual save to make before the penalty. The penalty probably is one, but if the ref hasn't given it, is it really enough for VAR to pull it back? It's the kind of foul that happens every week without intervention. Sure we'd have gotten the same treatment if it had been us 1 down in the 90th minute at Ibrox though. My guess is that VAR asks the ref if he seen the shirt pull, refs like "what shirt pull" hence clear and obvious error Other than that, we are fucking honking, like worse than honking 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCityHibee Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Hearts would likely finish bottom 6 dross if it wasnt for that tefal headed freak Shankland 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCityHibee Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, tazz1903 said: Mind this wan? LOL another Fife jambo outed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 minute ago, VanCityHibee said: Hearts would likely finish bottom 6 dross if it wasnt for that tefal headed freak Shankland Decent chance we'll finish bottom six with him in the team if we stick with Naismith. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) Please never play Lammers or Dessers again, the very definition of haddies. Genuinely thought that we'd bottled it today, still can't believe that we won. Edited October 29, 2023 by bennett 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stylish Kid Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Well I know it was two stupid penalties to give away, but the last one definitely felt like the referee was looking for a reason to give it - very much same vibes as the Scotland-Spain match recently. Refs seem to be forgetting it's only "clear and obvious error", not "every tiny thing". Very frustrating 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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VincentGuerin Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, Stylish Kid said: Well I know it was two stupid penalties to give away, but the last one definitely felt like the referee was looking for a reason to give it - very much same vibes as the Scotland-Spain match recently. Refs seem to be forgetting it's only "clear and obvious error", not "every tiny thing". Very frustrating Ach, I mean, it's a stupid thing to do. But do I think it would have been given against us at Rugby Park or Fir Park? Probably not. Do I think we'd have got it at the other end? Let's be grown-ups about this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wonder Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 The most infuriating thing is that the threshold for when VAR can intervene changes every week. Sure it's just a coincidence it happens to be lower for certain teams. Also, someone said after the Celtic game last week that when you play the Glasgow teams it's the small decisions you never get. Another perfect example today, Cochrane was shoved in the back with 2 hands, no foul and Rangers nearly score from the resulting corner. Similarly, Vargas clearly fouled in the lead up to the corner for the penalty, not given. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) Tbh I would be all for shirt pulling being clamped down on for penalties. Its a cynical part of the game that doesn't get punished enough. It does happen at just about every corner though so understandably giving one at the end of a match raises suspicions. At the same time though I would be raging at my own player for doing something like that. Edited October 29, 2023 by gannonball 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Tony Wonder said: The most infuriating thing is that the threshold for when VAR can intervene changes every week. Sure it's just a coincidence it happens to be lower for certain teams. Also, someone said after the Celtic game last week that when you play the Glasgow teams it's the small decisions you never get. Another perfect example today, Cochrane was shoved in the back with 2 hands, no foul and Rangers nearly score from the resulting corner. Similarly, Vargas clearly fouled in the lead up to the corner for the penalty, not given. It's always the wee things. The 1-1 draw we had there in 2021 nearly turned away from us when the referee didn't give us either of two clear fouls in Rangers' half before giving them a free-kick seconds later when Hagi kicked the ground. It put us under pressure and Rangers scored within two minutes, swinging the momentum of the game when we'd been doing well. Justice prevailed with our late goal, but it's a classic example of the wee fouls that are usually called fairly that are very easy for the referee to give to the OF in Glasgow. Today was the same thing. Clear free-kick to Hearts. Away at Killie we get that foul and see the game out. In Glasgow we don't get that foul. Referees need to be a bit braver. Edited October 29, 2023 by VincentGuerin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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