ICTChris Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Three people have been convicted of murdering 14 year old Caroline Glachan in Renton in 1996. Robert O'Brien, Andrew Kelly and Donna Marie Brand, now in their 40s, were all convicted at the High Court in Glasgow. Caroline had been in a relationship with O'Brien and left her home to meet him - a short time later she was beaten and thrown into the River Leven. Police at the time seem to have made errors, not following up on statements that contradicted the alibis of the killers as well as an interview with a four year old boy who the murderers had been babysitting that night and who witnessed the attack. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67691182 Really tragic case, some absolutely terrible people involved. The killer sat smoking heroin while babysitting two children, then woke them up and walked them down to teh river where they killed a 14 year old and then put them back to bed. The four year old was deemed unfit to give evidence now and is said to be highly traumatised. Why would someone get a bunch of kids, let alone a load of drug users, to look after a four and two year old? Crazy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Good. At last. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Harrowing reading. Better late than never, I suppose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverton End Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Some comfort at last for her family that those b*****ds have finally been caught. RIP Caroline 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 It's hard to believe that 3 are in their mid 40s, they look ready for the knackers yard ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted December 15, 2023 Author Share Posted December 15, 2023 10 hours ago, Leith Green said: It's hard to believe that 3 are in their mid 40s, they look ready for the knackers yard ! Yeah, a life of crime and drugs isn't good for the complexion. Since the murder O'Brien has been convicted of serious assault, robbery, drug dealing and attempted murder, where he shot someone with a crossbow. Kelly has been convicted of possession of an offensive weapon. Clearly some very violent, dangerous people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 12 hours ago, Leith Green said: It's hard to believe that 3 are in their mid 40s, they look ready for the knackers yard ! Life in the Vale, THats what @Sweet Pete looks like and hes only 21. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peil Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Melanius Mullarkay said: Life in the Vale, THats what @Sweet Pete looks like and hes only 21. Pretty much. I used to live in Dalmuir, after being made homeless and needed a flat near the kids. A lot of the worst efforts from up the Vale ended up moving into the blocks around me. Was hard to remind yourself that these were once someones little toddlers with their whole lives ahead of them, some truly awful lives being led. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted December 15, 2023 Author Share Posted December 15, 2023 What's the Vale? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microdave Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, ICTChris said: What's the Vale? The Vale of Leven. Comprising of places along the river Leven such as Alexandria and Renton. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 50 minutes ago, ICTChris said: What's the Vale? The River Leven valley. Bonhill, Alexandria, Renton, Balloch and Jamestown. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, microdave said: The Vale of Leven. Comprising of places along the river Leven such as Alexandria and THE Renton. FTFY 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Sweet Pete said: The River Leven valley. Bonhill, Alexandria, Renton, Balloch and Jamestown. Just WhatsApped this to Mrs Mullarkey. Verge of tears, seething etc etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 This horrendous episode has haunted this area for far too long, and at least the truth is now out - it is to be hoped that Lord Braid is not inclined towards any prospect of an early consideration for release. And Caroline Glachan's mother Margaret summoned more dignity yesterday than these three murderous cretins ever managed. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyAnchor Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 The Renton, (Ranton). The Kind Man Bar. Is it still there? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyAnchor Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Just saw this from the link. By Catriona Renton & Paul O'Hare Seriously? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted December 15, 2023 Author Share Posted December 15, 2023 17 minutes ago, BillyAnchor said: Just saw this from the link. By Catriona Renton & Paul O'Hare Seriously? ?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 40 minutes ago, BillyAnchor said: Just saw this from the link. By Catriona THE Renton & Paul O'Hare Seriously? Indeed. FTFY 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyAnchor Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 35 minutes ago, ICTChris said: ?? The last names of the writers. Renton and O'Hare (which is an estate nearby in Bonhill). Seems a wee bit too coincidental. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, BillyAnchor said: The Renton, (Ranton). The Kind Man Bar. Is it still there? The building is still there but the pub has long since ceased operating. Back in the day the Kind Man football tournament which took place on Tontine Park was a big thing and several pros would take part. About 100 yards along the road was The Central Bar. Better known as 'Winnie's', it was used as a location in the 1990's film 'Regeneration' starring Johnny Lee Miller. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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