Sortmeout Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 The guy Iain Packer has been found guilty today which is not a shock at all based on his admissions in court and his “courting” of the press over the last decade or so. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-68304929 Not really unique for a killer to do what he has done since he killed her but I always think it’s pretty interesting how these peoples minds work. If you had done something so bad and got away with it surely you would just keep quiet. Do you think they crave the attention/notoriety or do think they believe that by talking to the media that they will make themselves look less guilty. I remember watching a BBC or similar show about the murder about 7 years ago and this guy was all over it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microdave Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 I don't think it's quite wanting to be caught but they might want to "get the credit" for what they've done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) Quite a few questions about the police investigation, Packer should have been identified a lot sooner. He is guilty as sin and they should look at him for other murders, the guy is clearly hugely dangerous. Edited February 28 by ICTChris 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Some background on the investigation https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-68285168 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEADOWXI Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Think it can be a bit of an ego thing, believing if they have got away with it for so long they are too smart to be caught, and flaunting it in the face of the police/media. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWL Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Interesting choice of photo to release..... Wonder if he and senior officer who refused to allow the Packer line of enquiry to continue in 2005 were in same Lodge? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 12 minutes ago, PWL said: Wonder if he and senior officer who refused to allow the Packer line of enquiry to continue in 2005 were in same Lodge? The rumour that he had his “brothers” sort him out on this has been going around since I first heard of the case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Ferguson's Hat Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 He could have at least worn the home kit. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossilYM Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Brother oh Brother 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 A quick Google of that policeman. I don't think I have seen a more lodgy looking face. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 https://judiciary.scot/home/sentences-judgments/sentences-and-opinions/2024/02/28/hma-v-iain-packer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 A significant stench of Glasgow polis racism and misogyny in this case. Get these horrible excuses for human beings in the dock as well. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) A 36 year tarrif is the second longest ever handed out by a Scottish court, the longest was 37 years for Angus SInclair for the Worlds End murders. The sheer volume of Packer's offending is horrifying - he was convicted of 32 charges relating to 22 women, including eleven rapes. I don't know if anyone has ever been convicted of this many sexual offences in a Scottish court. For him to get to 51 years old without a conviction for sexual offences or having been sentenced to a significant prison term is a disgrace. As has been noted, he was a suspect in 2005. If you watched the documentary and listened to the podcast series that the BBC completed you know he was well known among sex workers, he was notorious. He's not someone who blended into the background. Edited February 28 by ICTChris 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEADOWXI Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 15 hours ago, Barry Ferguson's Hat said: He could have at least worn the home kit. Why, he's going away for a long time. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Wild how much publicity the c**t got on the telly and the police were still chasing some Turkish boys for the murder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDuffman Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 If he was being covered by his 'brothers' then he's obviously thought he was untouchable. He could get away with saying whatever he wanted. If it proves to be true that it was a coverup the higher ups should be charged with coruption, jailed & loose their pensions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 (edited) They found Caldwell's blood in the Turkish cafe, her last phonecall was to a phone registered to one of the staff, and the owner did 10 years for rape and sexual assault. It's possible there was no masonic conspiracy and they were just convinced it was them what did it. Obviously incompetence, unprofessionalism and unwillingness to accept they might be wrong played a part, but they might not have been trying to protect a man they knew to be guilty. Edited February 29 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/29/calls-grow-for-inquiry-into-police-failings-in-iain-packer-case-emma-caldwell "David Kennedy, the chief executive of the Scottish Police Federation, said he was “not convinced there would be benefit from a public inquiry” into the case. “Society has moved on and so has the police service. I genuinely believe policing is much better, with policies to deal with vulnerable witnesses and domestic abuse,” he said. “The Caldwell case was a particularly bad instance where the decision was made about who the suspects were early on rather than looking at all the evidence.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH Panda Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Good BBC documentary on it, clearly was ready to go as soon as sentencing was complete. A badly botched police investigation. Also you don't usually get the chance to hear from murderers before they have being charged. At the end you could tell Packer was desperate to say something then bottled it because he was told the cameras were still running. He'll never see the light of day again, and rightly so. Sadly the profile of his victims probably protected him, and some fortuitously placed foreigners. www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001x0fz 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 I’ve listened to the podcast series over the last couple of days, it’s a fantastic bit of journalism. A huge failure in the police. More episodes still to come. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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