peebles_Dee Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 5 minutes ago, rainbowrising said: Hanley and Hendry are shit and a total bombscare playing alongside each other. McKenna possibly then. We aren’t really spoilt for choices 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 10 minutes ago, ScottishLoon said: Can people stop pretending the starting 11 wasn't the right starting 11 because of purely how the performance ended up? The performance in general was shit and that's why what happened did. Gilmour would of got on the ball and had f**k all to do with it, he doesn't have the engine or defensive ability/physicality to play in a 2 man midfield against that German team. I don’t think Gilmour’s inclusion would’ve made a huge difference in the end given the red card but surely to f**k you start him this one. He’s the one guy in that midfield that can slow the game down and keep possession when they are getting on top of us. Starting Christie over him was criminal IMHO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 3 minutes ago, STFU_Donny said: Steve Clarke sounds under pressure in his post match presser. And so he should be. Germany are much better than us, but that was an absolute humiliation. A complete annihilation. You'd have been forgiven for thinking we were playing with 10 men even before Porteous was sent off. Germany did their homework on us and we had no answers. The gaps in defence and midfield were found time and time again and we are a bit fortunate to have gotten out of that without setting the record defeat at Euros match. Ralston, McGregor and Gunn were particularly rotten, but does anyone deserve passmarks tonight? For me, no. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self-raising Lazarus Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Really weak mentally from the players tonight. Watching it was clear as day no player felt brave enough to offer for the ball in tight spaces, pick a pass, take a man on, gamble. Playing for rangers or celtic simply isn't good enough at this level, and the more players who go abroad the better. Spent a lot of money and potentially wasted my annual leave watching that no mark performance, scotland at tournaments eh? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekok Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Short and simple, our manager is totally out of his depth, always has been , lucky boy with players available. Anyone who would not start Gilmour in this game should be fired on the spot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewanandmoreagain Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 3 minutes ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said: I don’t think Gilmour’s inclusion would’ve made a huge difference in the end given the red card but surely to f**k you start him this one. He’s the one guy in that midfield that can slow the game down and keep possession when they are getting on top of us. Starting Christie over him was criminal IMHO. Agreed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheas_cake Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 At least any form of hope was extinguished almost immediately instead of suffering soul-crushing misery in the last minute or something. What an absolutely shite performance from every single player, a complete and utter bottle job. I have no faith whatsoever in these gutless clowns picking up anything other than bookings in the remaining two games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewanandmoreagain Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 27 minutes ago, Doonhame Buddie said: Morgan must start against Switzerland. Why ? Where does he play ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Just now, Ewanandmoreagain said: Why ? Where does he play ? These finals, in goal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewanandmoreagain Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 3 minutes ago, Self-raising Lazarus said: Really weak mentally from the players tonight. Watching it was clear as day no player felt brave enough to offer for the ball in tight spaces, pick a pass, take a man on, gamble. Nobody apart from Tierney , maybe Robertson , seemed capable although the Germans really knew how to press FTOF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 19 minutes ago, ScottishLoon said: Can people stop pretending the starting 11 wasn't the right starting 11 because of purely how the performance ended up? The performance in general was shit and that's why what happened did. Gilmour would of got on the ball and had f**k all to do with it, he doesn't have the engine or defensive ability/physicality to play in a 2 man midfield against that German team. It wasnt the right starting 11, beginning with 3 at the back against a lone front man while 2 sitting mids need to deal with 3 fluid attacking mids was bad enough, but when one is callum mcgregor who has been found out time and again above spfl level is absolute madness He should have started with a 433, the 3 sitting mids of mctominay, Gilmour and mcginn, shankland up top with adams and another energetic runner as the inside 10's, that not only closes down all space in front of the back 2 that germany literally spent most of the game in, but gives an outball up top as well that isnt a lonely b*****ding striker who is closer to the fans than his teammates, Germany would still likely have been too good as the likes of ralston etc would have been absolutely ripped apart all night, but at least stifle their main outlet which was the 3 attacking mids That first half you'd have been forgiven if you though scotland weren't playing a midfield 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 We talk about biased commentary but I’m watching the BBC highlights of the match and both commentators initially make no comment about the terrible tackle Porteous makes. The co commentator then describes the actions of Porteous as “understandable” No excuses for that tackle. Terrible by Porteous. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewanandmoreagain Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 21 minutes ago, STFU_Donny said: Steve Clarke sounds under pressure in his post match presser. Did he get asked about 1 ) why the defense and midfield could not cope with their forwards finding space so easily 2 ) was he expecting their press to be so " aggressive " ? Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewanandmoreagain Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 6 minutes ago, 54_and_counting said: It wasnt the right starting 11, beginning with 3 at the back against a lone front man while 2 sitting mids need to deal with 3 fluid attacking mids was bad enough, but when one is callum mcgregor who has been found out time and again above spfl level is absolute madness He should have started with a 433, the 3 sitting mids of mctominay, Gilmour and mcginn, shankland up top with adams an Germany would still likely have been too good as the likes of ralston etc would have been absolutely ripped apart all night, but at least stifle their main outlet which was the 3 attacking mids That first half you'd have been forgiven if you though scotland weren't playing a midfield Four five one , rather than 4 - 3 - 3 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Ralston looked very like the 3rd choice RWB that he is but Musiala was superb tonight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 minute ago, Ewanandmoreagain said: Four five one , rather than 4 - 3 - 3 Who would you play at right back? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placidcasual Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Game was crying out for Billy Gilmour from kick off. He's the one guy that will constantly show for a ball even when you're getting pressed like that and he'll move it on. Twice now Clarke's been caught sleeping in the first game at a Euros. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewanandmoreagain Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 minute ago, Distant Doonhamer said: Who would you play at right back? McCrorie ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewanandmoreagain Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 minute ago, placidcasual said: Game was crying out for Billy Gilmour from kick off. He's the one guy that will constantly show for a ball even when you're getting pressed like that and he'll move it on. Twice now Clarke's been caught sleeping in the first game at a Euros. It would appear so ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Just now, Ewanandmoreagain said: McCrorie ? Are we dropping Tierney or Robertson or playing KT as one of 2 centre backs.? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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