2426255 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 I wouldn't even think about the Germany game coming into this one. The team must put that game behind them to have a chance of qualification. The mood of the nation can change in a heartbeat, so don't worry about the fans. I would not make dramatic changes based around what's happened last night. The tactical plan for Germany isn't necessarily the same one for Switzerland. If it is similar, we need to execute it better. The only thing we know is that it's must not lose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 We've had pretty close to a regular starting 11 for a while now. Off the boil but there on merit. I think there's still a choice between Hanley, Cooper and McKenna, Ralston and McCrorie, Adams and Shankland. Apart from that the question is all about 4 from 5 in midfield. I think after last night any of them could drop out for Billy Gilmour and it wouldn't completely surprise me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Gunn Hendry McKenna Tierney Robertson Gilmour McGregor McGinn McTominay Conway Shankland 442, go for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Can’t help but think that the formation is every bit as important as the team selection. Like others I’m leaning towards a 4-4-2 for the simple reason that I can’t see how it could be any worse and with Dykes out we have no one else who is capable of playing the role that allows a lone striker as an option. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint in exile Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Starting to think it may be 3 defeats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 This McGinn for Christie would be something I'd consider as well as the above but just now I'd go for this. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true fan Posted June 15 Author Share Posted June 15 (edited) Yeah thats 3 changes which feels right. We just dont have quality back ups to make more radical changes. McKenna over Hanley, cos the latter not match fit (? quality anyway but lets be kind) Edited June 15 by true fan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 13 hours ago, Virtual Insanity said: Hanley in for Porteous is a default. Gilmour has to play, McTominay is not a deep lying midfielder. If he plays, he plays one of the two advanced roles. McGregor was off it tonight but will do better alongside Gilmour. Ralston needs to be dropped. Up front is a toss up for me, always been an Adams fan and harsh to judge him on tonight, but he was incredibly ineffective. I don't disagree much with this with a few caveats. mcTominay CAN play deep lying midfielder, he's done so plenty of times for Man United, but Gilmour is better at it. He should have played last night. It's all very well saying Ralston needs dropped but we don't have an alternative that's better so he'll have to play. I don't think Adams has done anything of note for Scotland since the Denmark game really. I'd be tempted to try Shankland. As much as people bemoan Dykes for his general level, he's crucial to the way we play and we simply don't have a similar replacement (unless it's McBurnie and probably none of us want to go back to that). Adams (and Shankland) would both be much better in a front two but we'd have to go back four or drop an attacking midfielder for that. 12 hours ago, lesheep said: We are in abysmal form. We need to change it up. Clark Mccrorie Hanley McKenna Robertson Gilmour McGinn Mctominay Christie Shankland Conway yep, 7 changes, that's the way to go. 10 hours ago, GordonS said: Dramatic changes of formation and line-up would probably only make things worse. If it doesn't work it's not just a case of going back to Plan A for Hungary, those players will have shattered confidence. Against Akanji, Schär and Rodriguez it's even more important that whoever plays up front is able to bring the midfield up. So Dykes it is then. I really don't know who can do that for us now - in which case, should we consider going back to Clarke's first successful formation, 5-3-2, and put two up top? We absolutely must do something to stop Xhaka from playing. The guy has just strolled to the best domestic season in the history of German football. Kroos killed us in the first half and if he gets the space, Xhaka will do likewise. We need someone in midfield to properly screen the back three and make sure nothing gets between the lines, which is an area that killed us tonight. I wish I could think of a better option than McGregor. Gunn Hendry Hanley Tierney McGregor McCrorie McGinn (man-marking Xhaka) McTominay Robertson Christie Shankland Agreed in general. Don't agree with picking McCrorie and I'd be playing Gilmour, but otherwise fair enough. 2 hours ago, lesheep said: Stunned people want him in. He is another joke. Doesn’t even get a game for Norwich He's been injured for a year. He's their club captain and would have been playing if fully fit. YOU put him in your line up further up. Did you forget that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Switzerland play a 3-4-3 I think. I’d match them up, using wing backs to hold the width and then having McGinn and McTominay cutting in on their better foot. Ryan Christie unfortunately has to come fall out of the team because Gilmour deserves a place. I’d give Hanley another shot. Ideally Ralston would come out but I just don’t see anyone else being any better so just two changes: Gunn Hendry-Hanley-Tierney Ralston-Gilmour-McGregor-Robertson McGinn-Adams-McTominay 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletchers Saucy Manbun Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 58 minutes ago, itzdrk said: This McGinn for Christie would be something I'd consider as well as the above but just now I'd go for this. Think that's about as good as it gets in the try something different stakes. Conway has played lone striker for Bristol this last season, wonder if he'll be a very surprise starter if Clarke wants to keep only one up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 I think I would be going with McKenna in the middle of the back three. Other than that I think the only change I would make would be bringing in Gilmour. I would be tempted to play Christie deeper alongside him. I would still start Adams, if we actually attempt to play football then he is our best striker at linking everything up. Big if though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLichtie86 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 For me we need more going forward and be better at the back. We cant sit back and defend for a draw. We need 3 points. RWB is a problem area that teams will exploit as Ralston is struggles to defend and offers little as an out ball to that side. Also going forward he is somewhat pish. Would be bold but putting McTominay at RWB might be an idea. Can somewhat defend and likes to get forward and is more technically better than the 2 RWB options. Can cross the ball too. McGinn at RW to drift in to help the striker and link up with McTominay running forward. His arse can win us free kicks. Get Gilmour in the middle for his passing. Morgan out wide on the left for more attacking threat as he can cut in also. Shankland up front as chances may be limited and he has an eye for goal. May not be liked by everyone but he has scored a lot this season. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Gunn Hendry Hanley Tierney Christie Gilmour McGregor Robertson McTominay Shankland Adams 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Belt Caley Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Mckenna in for Porteous and Hendry goes to RCB Mcrorie in for Ralston Gilmour in for McGregor And I’d be tempted to drop either Mcginn or Mctominay too but no idea who I’d put in place of them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewanandmoreagain Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 21 hours ago, JS_FFC said: One team for the usual formation and one for 4-2-3-1 Gunn Hendry-Hanley-Tierney Ralston-Gilmour-McGregor-Robertson McTominay-McGinn Adams Gunn Ralston-Hendry-McKenna-Robertson Gilmour-McGregor Christie-McTominay-McGinn Adams Somehow I feel like a prefer the latter Ralston stays in ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewanandmoreagain Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 20 minutes ago, Central Belt Caley said: Mckenna in for Porteous and Hendry goes to RCB Mcrorie in for Ralston Gilmour in for McGregor And I’d be tempted to drop either Mcginn or Mctominay too but no idea who I’d put in place of them Seconded 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 6 minutes ago, Ewanandmoreagain said: Ralston stays in ? Who can replace him? McCrorie is pish. He doesn’t really deserve to keep his place but there’s no other options. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Got slaughtered for saying I'd drop McGinn before the Germany game but I stand by that he's been our least effective midfielder for a while now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 13 hours ago, JS_FFC said: Who can replace him? McCrorie is pish. He doesn’t really deserve to keep his place but there’s no other options. McCrorie is a better option than Ralston. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 11 minutes ago, Highlandmagar said: McCrorie is a better option than Ralston. Have you actually seen him play? Hes pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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