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HUNGARY V SWITZERLAND - the best outcome?


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Having the Swiss score a few more probably suits. Makes a draw v us quite useful for them given they’d finish on a minimum of 4 points and a significant GD advantage over us.

Wouldn’t be terrible for the Hungarians to be effectively out by Sunday either.

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Hungary are arguably in a worse position than us with Germany still to come in their next game having not yet qualified. If we can get a draw against the Swiss qualification is there for us. Not a bad outcome. I'd take a draw all day long given the result in this game.

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7 minutes ago, jagtastic said:

Both those teams are beatable if we can get the finger out. 

Was thinking the opposite tbh. Both have a cutting edge we don't, and Xhaka/Szoboszlai are better at breaking lines than anyone we have too.

I can't see us keeping a clean sheet against either, and are we likely to score twice against either?

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My half-assed analysis from watching an hour of that game is that Switzerland look like the kind of team who'll cause us problems whereas Hungary might just swing crosses in for 90 minutes. Admittedly, I was distracted by the friendly but steaming local going on about Motorhead and motorbikes. 

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9 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

Was thinking the opposite tbh. Both have a cutting edge we don't, and Xhaka/Szoboszlai are better at breaking lines than anyone we have too.

I can't see us keeping a clean sheet against either, and are we likely to score twice against either?

Yep that’s pretty much my view too. 4 points while clearly not impossible looks a very big ask. 

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Compounding that defeat last night, it appears my missus has converted the boy into a fucking Swiss fan today. Not that I blame him, but I’ve spent the first 4 years of his life trying to get him interested in the fucking game and she has managed it in 180 minutes.

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17 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

Was thinking the opposite tbh. Both have a cutting edge we don't, and Xhaka/Szoboszlai are better at breaking lines than anyone we have too.

I can't see us keeping a clean sheet against either, and are we likely to score twice against either?

I don’t know, we’ll see. Were we likely to score twice against Spain, or Norway?

We aren’t going to turn up and cruise past anybody, but both teams had spells in that game where they looked distinctly average and prone to mistakes under pressure. Just like us.

We are capable of beating both.

 

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Just now, jagtastic said:

I don’t know, we’ll see. Were we likely to score twice against Spain, or Norway?

We aren’t going to turn up and cruise past anybody, but both teams had spells in that game where they looked distinctly average and prone to mistakes under pressure. Just like us.

We are capable of beating both.

 

We are, but are we capable, in the form we're in, of not losing both?

There's no point comparing the current team to the one 12 months ago IMO, there's a lack of belief/confidence there now that's seeped in since England crusied through us.

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29 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

We are, but are we capable, in the form we're in, of not losing both?

There's no point comparing the current team to the one 12 months ago IMO, there's a lack of belief/confidence there now that's seeped in since England crusied through us.

Maybe just me but I’ve no idea why you would approach two winnable games in a tournament worrying about poor form or performances against teams notably better than the ones you are facing. Why wouldn’t you focus on beating better or similar strength teams in the qualifying campaign?

If we shit the bed on Wednesday then that’ll be that, but hopefully a bit of professional pride will provide the required boot up the arse.

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1 minute ago, jagtastic said:

Maybe just me but I’ve no idea why you would approach two winnable games in a tournament worrying about poor form or performances against teams notably better than the ones you are facing. Why wouldn’t you focus on beating better or similar strength teams in the qualifying campaign?

If we shit the bed on Wednesday then that’ll be that, but hopefully a bit of professional pride will provide the required boot up the arse.

In the last 10 games we've lost to Northern Ireland, amd drawn with Finland, Georgia, and Norway.

Then we had the laboured win over Gibraltar. 

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27 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

In the last 10 games we've lost to Northern Ireland, amd drawn with Finland, Georgia, and Norway.

Then we had the laboured win over Gibraltar. 

All those meaningless games after qualifying from a fairly tricky group with games to spare.

We are at cross purposes here. You are worried about form since qualifying and I don’t think there’s any point dwelling on it. Particularly with two winnable games in front of us for a chance to stay in the tournament.

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2 minutes ago, jagtastic said:

All those meaningless games after qualifying from a fairly tricky group with games to spare.

We are at cross purposes here. You are worried about form since qualifying and I don’t think there’s any point dwelling on it. Particularly with two winnable games in front of us for a chance to stay in the tournament.

We aren't good enough to recover form after losing it, which is my point.

Looking at our form over a year ago is irrelevant due to the form in the last 10 games.

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2 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

We aren't good enough to recover form after losing it, which is my point.

Looking at our form over a year ago is irrelevant due to the form in the last 10 games.

Aye ok. We’re doomed. 

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