NotThePars Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Thumper said: They honestly think that going on TV and saying "we're a blank slate" every day is better than having concrete policies and having to defend them. The reason for this is that when Corbyn had solid policies and defended them, all these c***s went behind his back to attack them to their pals in Epstein's black book the press. In fairness I blame Corbyn as well for giving me any belief that the Labour Party could be anything other than wretched disappointments and ideological cowards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, NotThePars said: In fairness I blame Corbyn as well for giving me any belief that the Labour Party could be anything other than wretched disappointments and ideological cowards. On the other hand the entire Corbyn experience demystified the Labour Party. The right wing tendencies aren't immanent and unchangeable they exist because of certain people holding certain jobs/roles/offices. We also now know because of the Labour Leaks that they are a bunch of fairly thick, miserable and bitter idiots. If you come to the conclusion that Stamer, Emily Oldknow, Jon Ashworth, Streeting, Akehurst etc can't be defeated within the Labour Party it's hard to see how anything can ever be changed via parliamentarism. Edited July 8, 2021 by Detournement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 16 minutes ago, Detournement said: On the other hand the entire Corbyn experience demystified the Labour Party. The right wing tendencies aren't immanent and unchangeable they exist because of certain people holding certain jobs/roles/offices. We also now know because of the Labour Leaks that they are a bunch of fairly thick, miserable and bitter idiots. If you come to the conclusion that Stamer, Emily Oldknow, Jon Ashworth, Streeting, Akehurst etc can't be defeated within the Labour Party it's hard to see how anything can ever be changed via parliamentarism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 7 hours ago, NotThePars said: They tried that already it was shite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 They tried that already it was shite.It was a Platinum selling record, mate. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 In awe of this guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I could have put this in the BBC Bias thread but Starmer obviously signed off on this. Still terrified of Jez. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Are Labour just fucking useless at comms now or do the media just not bother with them? I would genuinely struggle to tell you the last time I heard Starmer speak or read something he had said or done. I have seen Annelise Dodds in some grainy video from her kitchen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Part of me wants to see the source of these images and another part of me really really doesn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 36 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: Part of me wants to see the source of these images and another part of me really really doesn't. Looks like QT. Maybe he followed it up with examples of people trying their very best to find work and getting sanctioned by UC regardless, but I doubt it. I think the only principled stance he's taken since he became leader was on Boris's wallpaper. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 It's good that young people even sacrificing 18 months of the primes of their lives to protect people like this isn't good enough for these people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Relax lads, I'm sure alienating the under 25 vote to try to appeal to golf club bores who have voted Tory for the last 5 elections and will continue to do so, will work out just fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Karen Buck is the Labour MP for Westminster North. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 On 16/07/2021 at 15:46, invergowrie arab said: Are Labour just fucking useless at comms now or do the media just not bother with them? It's not one or the other - it's both. They have nothing to say, nothing to offer...meanwhile Boris makes headlines all the time (good and bad) and gets away with it all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) As soon as they have purged the left Mandelson will get his black book out and the cash will start rolling in. Edited July 20, 2021 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 What the f**k is this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Is there a fence left for him to sit on? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 6 hours ago, welshbairn said: Is there a fence left for him to sit on? My sources tell me there are two, but he can't commit to either 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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