What is the point of labour ?

[Salt n Vinegar]

6 minutes ago, Zern said:

Kier Starmer giving a speech. It's not great as he is a bad public speaker. He mentioned Gordon Brown doing something on devolution and Lord Blunkett too.

Watching it on Sky. 

I trust nobody with any wet paint is missing the wonderful opportunity to experience its glorious drying by instead watching Starmer's meaningless verbiage and gobbledygook. 

[Zern]

3 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said:

Watching it on Sky. 

I trust nobody with any wet paint is missing the wonderful opportunity to experience its glorious drying by instead watching Starmer's meaningless verbiage and gobbledygook. 

He says he is offering change, yet his signal policy is merely to comply with the NIP as written which is a continuation of Tory policy.

Make Brexit twerk.

[Granny Danger]

19 minutes ago, Zern said:

He says he is offering change, yet his signal policy is merely to comply with the NIP as written which is a continuation of Tory policy.

Make Brexit twerk.

In fairness he is being consistent.  It just beggars belief that he seems to ignore all the polls that show Labour voters think Brecht isn’t working.

[Thane of Cawdor]

29 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

In fairness he is being consistent.  It just beggars belief that he seems to ignore all the polls that show Labour voters think Brecht isn’t working.

In fairness, Bertolt died in 1956. You're a hard taskmaster.

[Highlandmagar]

1 hour ago, Zern said:

Kier Starmer giving a speech. It's not great as he is a bad public speaker. He mentioned Gordon Brown doing something on devolution and Lord Blunkett too.

Jesus! Not be much done on that policy then!

[Clown Job]

1 hour ago, Zern said:

He says he is offering change, yet his signal policy is merely to comply with the NIP as written which is a continuation of Tory policy.

Make Brexit twerk.

Change for Labour is maintaining the status quo until the Tories come back into power 

 

[Granny Danger]

29 minutes ago, Thane of Cawdor said:

In fairness, Bertolt died in 1956. You're a hard taskmaster.

Tough on playwrights, tough on the causes of playwrights.

[Salt n Vinegar]

33 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

Tough on playwrights, tough on the causes of playwrights.

Oh be fair. With everything that is going on it's not easy keeping abrecht of developments. 

[Benjamin_Nevis]

You're right there is no way the SNP could organise this. It's the equivalent of putting a colony on Mars or cracking down on AirBnB. They will just need to keep bribing middle class voters until the end of time. 
They should get back to making sure that primary school teachers have access to their pupils' parents criminal and medical records.

What an absolute fucking roaster [emoji23]

[monthefife]

So there you have it Scottish Labour die-hards. It's now acceptable for Labour to suspend cllrs if they refuse to do deals with the Tories instead of the SNP. 

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37 minutes ago, monthefife said:

So there you have it Scottish Labour die-hards. It's now acceptable for Labour to suspend cllrs if they refuse to do deals with the Tories instead of the SNP. 

Bizzare to be proud of working with one of the most corrupt parties this country has ever seen.

[BMG Spider]

1 hour ago, monthefife said:

So there you have it Scottish Labour die-hards. It's now acceptable for Labour to suspend cllrs if they refuse to do deals with the Tories instead of the SNP. 

She could just have finished with "...Labour's determination to do nothing". There was no need to add on the last 3 words

[Granny Danger]

I wonder if Keith thinks the current Labour lead is mainly down to his say nothing/do nothing approach or to the monumental fuckwittery of the Tories.

Edited July 13, 2022 by Granny Danger

[Clown Job]

 

[Antlion]

2 minutes ago, Clown Job said:

 

That’s extreme, division-loving, anti-union, separatist nationalism for you.

[Duries Air Freshener]

On 12/07/2022 at 13:33, monthefife said:

So there you have it Scottish Labour die-hards. It's now acceptable for Labour to suspend cllrs if they refuse to do deals with the Tories instead of the SNP. 

Too right.

The SNP are toxic.

[Dan Steele]

19 minutes ago, Antlion said:

That’s extreme, division-loving, anti-union, separatist nationalism for you.

Yep, unbelievable words from Starmer there. Still, when Labour and Conservative are now indistinguishable from each other and with Scotland continually rejecting the insular, backward looking (Starmer might think he's looking forward) Tories, the argument for Scotland to be a very different country is being made on a daily basis. And the big independence campaign hasn't even started. Rerr!

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Yep, unbelievable words from Starmer there. Still, when Labour and Conservative are now indistinguishable from each other and with Scotland continually rejecting the insular, backward looking (Starmer might think he's looking forward) Tories, the argument for Scotland to be a very different country is being made on a daily basis. And the big independence campaign hasn't even started. Rerr!

I have several friends who are still active in the Labour Party. They are just appalled by this move - they are Unionists but think Starmer's stance just makes people focus on independence even more. As they say - why vote Unionist Lite when you can vote Unionist?

[monthefife]

1 hour ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

11 hours ago, The Skelpit Lug said:

Yep, unbelievable words from Starmer there. Still, when Labour and Conservative are now indistinguishable from each other and with Scotland continually rejecting the insular, backward looking (Starmer might think he's looking forward) Tories, the argument for Scotland to be a very different country is being made on a daily basis. And the big independence campaign hasn't even started. Rerr!

I have several friends who are still active in the Labour Party. They are just appalled by this move - they are Unionists but think Starmer's stance just makes people focus on independence even more. As they say - why vote Unionist Lite when you can vote Unionist?

Have you explained to them that Labour have now officially morphed into what is essentially an English Labour Party? 

[Salt n Vinegar]

52 minutes ago, monthefife said:

Have you explained to them that Labour have now officially morphed into what is essentially an English Labour Party? 

One day, hopefully very soon, Labour supporters in Scotland will realise that. They must surely wake up to the simple fact that the kind of centre/left leaning policies, and those concerned with our relationship with the EU, that their Scottish voters want will be sacrificed like pigs at a Tory club in the interests of taking votes in England.