Crùbag Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 3 hours ago, StellarHibee said: She really wasn't. She could have just called it out and shown herself to at least have some backbone. She continues to do as she's told instead. She's not a Dame for nothing. I loathe her. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG_03 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 7 hours ago, scottsdad said: She was in an impossible situation, defending the indispensable. Rotten policy 4 hours ago, StellarHibee said: She really wasn't. She could have just called it out and shown herself to at least have some backbone. She continues to do as she's told instead. Exactly this. Rather than just trotting out some party lines, she could've been honest and said that she disagrees with the labour party and kier starmer and would try and change the policy. Instead, she's just happy to defend the indefensible and happy being UK labours bitch. It's why I hate 'Scottish' labour. They're a joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Beep, beep, beep.....Labour won't be pressing ahead with their much vaunted free school meals policy. But remember folk this is all a ruse to woo Tory voters and it will all be "normal labour values" once they get the foot in No.10 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketman Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, GTG_03 said: Exactly this. Rather than just trotting out some party lines, she could've been honest and said that she disagrees with the labour party and kier starmer and would try and change the policy. Instead, she's just happy to defend the indefensible and happy being UK labours bitch. It's why I hate 'Scottish' labour. They're a joke. "look" and "let me be very clear" - two phrases beloved of politicians when contradictions and utter vacuous waffle is set to follow. Step forward Jackie Baillie: 1. removing it was a Labour 2019 manifesto commitment 2. JB/Scottish Labour oppose the two child benefit cap 3. if JB/SLAB had your way it would be removed immediately and SLAB committed to removing a policy akin to "Chinese communism" 4. The Tories will leave economic ruin and therefore Labour do not wish to make pledges on benefits that could add to that dire economic mismanagement 5. Therefore Starmer's position is correct that the two child benefit cap should remain All very clear indeed. Much like Scottish Labour's position on Brexit, immigration, nuclear weapons etc etc Edited July 19, 2023 by KingRocketman II 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 If Labour are in government after the next GE no one will be able to accuse them of breaking any election pledges. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 13 hours ago, TONTROOPER said: Reporting Scotland there trying to push the Labour " we have to be pragmatic" narrative regarding the 2 child cap. They then follow it up with 3 SNP BAD stories:- 1) A beetroot faced Fergus Ewing spewing his bile about the A9. 2) They invite him to have a second bite at the cherry and he duly obliges by telling the Minister to go. 3) Nae NHS dentists in Dunoon.....bad SNP. Need tae calm doon....... TV sets are expensive. Aye, this is the kind of stuff I was posting about on the BBC bias thread. I have no issue with BBC Scotland having a pop at politicians, but they dont seem to deal with all of the parties in an even handed manner - and are always "super keen" to bring on SNP politicians with a certain view of their party - like Ewing and McNeill - whereas the analysis of nonsense like Jackie Baillie yesterday is glossed over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KirkieRR Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Anas Sarwar is being fairly stout in contesting the second child policy. However, Smuggy Smugface Jackie 'I Love a Bit of Trident, Me' Baillie in her interview managed to say 1) The policy is kinda a bad thing, but also 2) Sir Peter Butterworth is pure dead courageous and pragmatic and brilliant for taking the TUFF DECISION and we should all support him for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Not a fan of anonymous sources but this sounds like a Starmer sort of statement. The branch office will roll over and be tickled with rage 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 45 minutes ago, dirty dingus said: Not a fan of anonymous sources but this sounds like a Starmer sort of statement. The branch office will roll over and be tickled with rage "Scottish Labour"... back in your wee box Sarwar, there's a good lad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRR Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 The grammar's awful. Not authentic, surely? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG_03 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 He's got the energy of a weak man trying to come across as strong and confident. I think he's gonna blow it at the election and lose to the Tories. Open goal and he's sending it miles over the bar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picklish Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Is "you lot" Drakeford and Sarwar? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 59 minutes ago, orfc said: Surprised at the lib Dems, but this isn't the misstep you lot think it is Maybe he should embrace the Rwanda policy too, see how that plays in the polls? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) Oh well if the Great British public agree with it then it must be morally justifiable. Was trying to think of the vibe Starmer gives me, and have concluded its 100% this Edited July 19, 2023 by oneteaminglasgow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRR Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I don't think it's an electoral 'mis-step': I think it's unprincipled. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 5 hours ago, orfc said: Surprised at the lib Dems, but this isn't the misstep you lot think it is I think we can safely say that the 60% are (a) not impacted and (b) dont understand it said "aye, just keep it". We should probably remove benefits from disabled people as well, or at least try and prove that they can work (oh, I forgot, thats already the tories policy.........) Also, we appoint politicians to govern, and to cut through the crap that "mike down the golf club in peterborough" thinks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarHibee Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 5 hours ago, orfc said: Surprised at the lib Dems, but this isn't the misstep you lot think it is So it's ok to do the immoral, as long as enough of the idiot public can be duped into believing that it's ok? Perhaps they can do a poll on whether corrupt politicians should be hung by the neck or not. Do you think they would go with the results of that poll? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) I'd like to see the other questions that built up to that response, Yougov are often sneaky about it, to set up a newsworthy result. So like 'Do you think unemployed people should be rewarded for having as many children as they can, paid for out of your taxes?'. I've seen similar before. Instead of maybe 'Do you think taking children out of poverty should be an important fiscal priority?' Edited July 19, 2023 by welshbairn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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