Billy Jean King Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 9 hours ago, orfc said: Ooh, nasty names! Lose your temper, lose the argument shunny Trust me there was zero anger describing you as I did, odd to think that anyone who describes you as a fukwit or insular is by default "angry". You made it glaringly obvious with your position. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 The primary job of MPs is to represent the constituents who elect them. On the issue of what Israel is doing in Gaza, there is a clear majority of the UK electorate wanting the UK government to push for a ceasefire. That majority is higher still among Labour constituencies. Yet because Starmer has been whipping his MPs into not voting for ceasefire motions, he has been denying Labour MPs the chance to do their jobs properly. Denying them the ability to represent in parliament the democratic will of their constituents. That much is objective fact. We can then subjectively speculate on why he's doing it. My guess is he's more concerned about appealing to Tory voters in swing seats and their potential sensibilities on this issue than he is about Labour voters. Of course, this is going to piss off both Labour MPs and Labour voters. In Scotland, there's an attempt to shield Starmer from backlash to his chicanery by blaming the SNP. Due to existing biases here, that's probably finding some reception. However, nobody in England and Wales is falling for it. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 22 hours ago, Leith Green said: I see that Hoyle -after saying last week that the SNP Gaza motion could now be debated in parliament - has decided to pull his own promise. A man of integrity, indeed............ You'll be hard pressed to find any media coverage on it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Meanwhile welsh health minister during pandemic, currently vying to become welsh devolved leader, Admits deleting his WhatsApp during pandemic Barely a squeak in the media As opposed to the 2 weeks coverage nicola got Hmm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Binos said: Meanwhile welsh health minister during pandemic, currently vying to become welsh devolved leader, Admits deleting his WhatsApp during pandemic Barely a squeak in the media As opposed to the 2 weeks coverage nicola got Hmm That’s because nobody cares about wales. Edited February 27 by MazzyStar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sparky88 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) On 27/02/2024 at 09:14, Freedom Farter said: The primary job of MPs is to represent the constituents who elect them. It's to represent the constituents, but it isn't to represent the views of their constituents. Otherwise we would have SNP politicians campaigning to remain in the UK and we would still have the death penalty. Edited February 28 by sparky88 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) This is the head of Inverclyde council who is pleading with Gove to send them money from the Barnett dough bypassing the Scottish Govt. Red Tory yoon poodle. Edited February 28 by dirty dingus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 11 minutes ago, orfc said: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/01/george-galloway-profiting-pain-gaza-rochdale *cough cough* "The MPs of the Scottish National party are, of course, sincere in their outrage at the plight of Gaza. But few would argue that the ceasefire motion they tabled last week – which triggered such ructions in the Commons – was aimed solely at helping Palestinians in need. It was also designed to expose and widen the rift within the ranks of their electoral rivals, Labour" Looks like that notorious right wing rag the guardian agrees with me, and not with the vacant twenty on this thread For the sake of absolute clarity, Galloway would not be an MP if Labour hadn't completely and utterly fucked up. Starmer's promise of quality candidates in every constituency at the GE is a fucking belter. What chance does he have of getting 650 lined up when he couldn't manage 1. Useless c**t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 I think someone needs to learn the difference between an editorial and an opinion column. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Surprised Starmer hasn't asked Rishi if he can cut food and water from Rochdale 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 12 hours ago, orfc said: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/01/george-galloway-profiting-pain-gaza-rochdale *cough cough* "The MPs of the Scottish National party are, of course, sincere in their outrage at the plight of Gaza. But few would argue that the ceasefire motion they tabled last week – which triggered such ructions in the Commons – was aimed solely at helping Palestinians in need. It was also designed to expose and widen the rift within the ranks of their electoral rivals, Labour" Looks like that notorious right wing rag the guardian agrees with me, and not with the vacant twenty on this thread You used the term Pallywood to allege Gazan victims were faking their suffering. You promoted a racist conspiracy theory. Sit the rest of this one out. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRR Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/mar/04/life-on-benefits-under-labour-will-not-be-an-option-says-liz-kendall Labour going all Tough Tory on benefits is no surprise. Liz Kendall still being a thing really should be a surprise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Pele Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Diane Abbott: MP denied chance to speak during Commons race debate In a PMQs dominated by comments made by a Tory donor about her, Diane Abbott rose at least 46 times to ask a question but did not get to speak. Funny how the Speaker could “use his discretion” the other week but not today 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 10 hours ago, Derry Pele said: Diane Abbott: MP denied chance to speak during Commons race debate In a PMQs dominated by comments made by a Tory donor about her, Diane Abbott rose at least 46 times to ask a question but did not get to speak. Funny how the Speaker could “use his discretion” the other week but not today Yep, and Hoyle attempting to justify it on the basis that many other MP's sought to intervene in the debate. That weak argument quickly falls apart on the fact that as far as we know none of these other MP's had been targeted as Diane Abbott has. In the context of the PMQ session she should have been allowed to contribute. Hoyle has become a liability as Speaker. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 hour ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: Hoyle has become a liability as Speaker. You say this as if it hasn't been the case since he took the job 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 See Abbott has an article in the Independent today which primarily focuses on the Tories & Hester, but also mentions Labour's own failures on racism and sexism, including their failure to act on the Forde Report. Cue a massive amount of blatant lying from Labour figures on TV today claiming the recommendations of that report have been implemented in full, when no such thing has happened to the point that Forde himself went to the media to complain about it. Meanwhile, Labour are using the Hester scandal to fundraise, sending the following email out: Abbott is currently suspended from the whip and has been for 11 months. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHF-23 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Labour now dropping their worker's rights program other than in a purely symbolic sense. Something extremely vague will be presented in the first 100 days but all detail now to be worked out through consultation with business leaders per the FT. It's good stuff guys 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Keir Hardie one of the Labour Party founders would be shocked at what the present Labour Party has turned into. Hardie in Parliament spoke once on how great the wealth of the nation had become but instead of the wealth bringing comfort to the masses it had instead brought increased burdens to the masses. Sound familiar? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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