Raith Rovers' Next Permanent Manager

[SirJimmyofNic]

3 minutes ago, Varna Rover said:

britain can employ who it wants from wherever it want, the eu do NOT controlour employment laws ascfar as i am aware

There is no freedom of movement between the EU and the UK, plus we were never signatories of the schengen agreement when we were in the EU, albeit there was less red tape to go through

Edited August 30 by SirJimmyofNic

[Varna Rover]

1 minute ago, SirJimmyofNic said:

There is no freedom of movement between the EU and the UK, plus we were never signatories of the schengen agreement when we were in the EU

so why has brexit got something to do with this. we get someone go through the paperwork get a work permit and residency and bingo just as before brexit. yes its more work but if we are serious then work is necessary

[SirJimmyofNic]

6 minutes ago, Varna Rover said:

so why has brexit got something to do with this. we get someone go through the paperwork get a work permit and residency and bingo just as before brexit. yes its more work but if we are serious then work is necessary

Read this :-

 

For those travelling to the UK from 01 January 2021, regardless of nationality, footballers have had to meet the same requirements under Immigration Rules to secure permission to enter and remain as International Sportspersons. Players must show they are internally established and can make a significant contribution to the development of football at the highest level in the UK. As with all sponsored visas, the club they’re playing for must hold a sponsor licence, and must issue the player with a Certificate of Sponsorship (CoS). Crucially, the player will need to receive a Governing Body Endorsement.

It is the Football Association (FA) who issues endorsements for footballers; they must confirm that the player is elite; is internationally established; and will make a significant contribution to the development of football at the highest level in the UK. They will consider various criteria when making this assessment to determine if the player qualifies for an ‘Auto Pass’ endorsement, if they can score sufficient points for an endorsement, or if other factors are relevant. The assessment that the FA undertakes can be summarised as follows:

Qualification for endorsement	Considerations
Auto Pass	International appearances
	National team's FIFA World rankings
15 points	International appearances
	Domestic league minutes
	Continental progression of the player’s last club
	League quality of player’s current club
10-14 points and exceptional circumstances	Points assessment is based on above criteria
	Exceptional circumstances must have prevented the player from achieving 15 points
Elite Significant Contribution (ESC) player (elite foreign players who will make a significant contribution to the sport)	Involves an assessment against specific ESC criteria, which includes appearances in youth international matches, participation in continental youth competition matches, or if the player has some senior international, continental or domestic senior competition appearances
Exceptions panel can assess the endorsement	Youth player must show significant potential and be of sufficient quality to enhance the development of the game in England

If the player can’t secure an endorsement under any of the above options

[Raithie]

6 minutes ago, Varna Rover said:

so why has brexit got something to do with this. we get someone go through the paperwork get a work permit and residency and bingo just as before brexit. yes its more work but if we are serious then work is necessary

You make it sound that easy. That whole process these days can take months and months....and more months. It's a non starter. 

[Varna Rover]

1 minute ago, SirJimmyofNic said:

Read this :-

 

For those travelling to the UK from 01 January 2021, regardless of nationality, footballers have had to meet the same requirements under Immigration Rules to secure permission to enter and remain as International Sportspersons. Players must show they are internally established and can make a significant contribution to the development of football at the highest level in the UK. As with all sponsored visas, the club they’re playing for must hold a sponsor licence, and must issue the player with a Certificate of Sponsorship (CoS). Crucially, the player will need to receive a Governing Body Endorsement.

It is the Football Association (FA) who issues endorsements for footballers; they must confirm that the player is elite; is internationally established; and will make a significant contribution to the development of football at the highest level in the UK. They will consider various criteria when making this assessment to determine if the player qualifies for an ‘Auto Pass’ endorsement, if they can score sufficient points for an endorsement, or if other factors are relevant. The assessment that the FA undertakes can be summarised as follows:

Qualification for endorsement	Considerations
Auto Pass	International appearances
	National team's FIFA World rankings
15 points	International appearances
	Domestic league minutes
	Continental progression of the player’s last club
	League quality of player’s current club
10-14 points and exceptional circumstances	Points assessment is based on above criteria
	Exceptional circumstances must have prevented the player from achieving 15 points
Elite Significant Contribution (ESC) player (elite foreign players who will make a significant contribution to the sport)	Involves an assessment against specific ESC criteria, which includes appearances in youth international matches, participation in continental youth competition matches, or if the player has some senior international, continental or domestic senior competition appearances
Exceptions panel can assess the endorsement	Youth player must show significant potential and be of sufficient quality to enhance the development of the game in England

If the player can’t secure an endorsement under any of the above options

that is for players. we are talking about a manager.

[SirJimmyofNic]

2 minutes ago, Varna Rover said:

that is for players. we are talking about a manager.

For fecks sake man the same rules apply

[Varna Rover]

5 minutes ago, Raithie said:

You make it sound that easy. That whole process these days can take months and months....and more months. It's a non starter. 

i didnt say it was easy but to blame brexit is simply ludicrous and its still the same as before brexit.

Edited August 30 by Varna Rover

[Beachbum]

1 minute ago, Varna Rover said:

i didnt say it was easy but to blame brexit is simply ludicrous

Brexit was ludicrous.

[Raithie]

Just now, Varna Rover said:

i didnt say it was easy but to blame brexit is simply ludicrous

So what's the reason then?

[Varna Rover]

1 minute ago, Beachbum said:

Brexit was ludicrous.

hey pal i am not getting into a brexit discussion. i am a brexiteer youare not so lets accept each other choice

[Jilted John]

1 minute ago, Varna Rover said:

hey pal i am not getting into a brexit discussion. i am a brexiteer youare not so lets accept each other choice

So you’ve voted for Britain to leave the EU then moved out of Britain to live in an EU country? That’s right up there with not missing a game in 14 years because you’ve seen the highlights on Raith Tv!

[The Tiel Burn]

Beexiteer living in Bulgaria failing to see that the process has got more complex. You are welcome to your choice, your politics etc but the process has factually got more complex. The club quoted a figure in the thousands to engage specialist lawyers for John F. 

It's now a market we can't access, TBH the focus on local talent is something I favour anyway.

[Varna Rover]

1 minute ago, The Tiel Burn said:

Beexiteer living in Bulgaria failing to see that the process has got more complex. You are welcome to your choice, your politics etc but the process has factually got more complex. The club quoted a figure in the thousands to engage specialist lawyers for John F. 

It's now a market we can't access, TBH the focus on local talent is something I favour anyway.

i came here in 2010 before brexit ad before bulgaira joined the eu so i probably dont see its more complex.

[SirJimmyofNic]

This is the crucial part, and I dont even know if the club still have a sponsor licence after the Helicopter affair

 

"As with all sponsored visas, the club they’re playing for must hold a sponsor licence, and must issue the player with a Certificate of Sponsorship (CoS). Crucially, the player will need to receive a Governing Body Endorsement."

[Varna Rover]

1 minute ago, SirJimmyofNic said:

This is the crucial part, and I dont even know if the club still have a sponsor licence after the Helicopter affair

 

"As with all sponsored visas, the club they’re playing for must hold a sponsor licence, and must issue the player with a Certificate of Sponsorship (CoS). Crucially, the player will need to receive a Governing Body Endorsement."

 

its still for players. nowhere does any of what you say mention managers. players in this instance are very different from managers. anyway lets agree to disagree. We both have the best for the rovers

[SirJimmyofNic]

Are you a feckin wind up merchant, or just thick

[McGuigan1978]

Admitting that you don’t actually know if the rules are more complex or not, but spending an hour or so arguing that they are is extraordinary behaviour. 

[Varna Rover]

1 minute ago, SirJimmyofNic said:

Are you a feckin wind up merchant, or just thick

neither. if you cant se the specifics as written then sorry for you

[Varna Rover]

1 minute ago, McGuigan1978 said:

Admitting that you don’t actually know if the rules are more complex or not, but spending an hour or so arguing that they are is extraordinary behaviour. 

to me its every day life some thing i dont have to think or worry about, anyway i am out of this discussion

[Scary Bear]

3 hours ago, Brashy's Boots said:

Friday today, Friday next week or some other Friday, weeks down the track, when we've all been worn down by apathy?

Friday is a good day for news.