Thundermonkey Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 BBC link Heart Attack admissions to hospitals down 17% since the ban kicked in, cotinine levels - Wiki also down in non-smokers. Happy days indeed! Over to the smokers to argue against it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ron Burgundy Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 as soon as they start making drinkers water down booze to protect their health I will fully support this ban...or perhaps making them drink in huge protected zones they will be kept in to stop the injuries/assaults etc caused by drunken behaviour. Thyee could be let out of the zone when they can provide a breath test proving they are sober.....or perhaps breath tests machines at bars to ensure they are not too drunk....prove you sober before you buy a drink....utter genius methinks. I would fully expect liver disease, assaults and drunken injuries to fall dramatically. Apparently cases of anti semetic behaviour dramatically ceased in germany around 1942...no idea why though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSam Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Age for buying cigarettes is increasing to 18 within the next couple of weeks. Same for knives. I can just foresee many arguments with snotty little 16 year olds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Age for buying cigarettes is increasing to 18 within the next couple of weeks. Same for knives. Don't really know if this will make much of a differance. The fact they've raised the age may acyually make some youngsters more determined to smoke. For me it just means more annoying wee b*****ds begging me to go into the shop for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwififer Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 I don't know which I dislike most, smoking, or the goverment telling me what I can and cannot do. The knives ban is a good idea though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 The knives ban is a good idea though. There not being banned, the age to buy them is just being raised to 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSam Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Don't really know if this will make much of a differance. The fact they've raised the age may acyually make some youngsters more determined to smoke. For me it just means more annoying wee b*****ds begging me to go into the shop for them. It'll make it much easier to ID people. Underagers buying alcohol you can spot a mile off, it's not so easy with cigarettes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundermonkey Posted September 10, 2007 Author Share Posted September 10, 2007 I don't know which I dislike most, smoking, or the goverment telling me what I can and cannot do.The knives ban is a good idea though. That makes no sense what so ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 It'll make it much easier to ID people.Underagers buying alcohol you can spot a mile off, it's not so easy with cigarettes. Thats true. On the other hand I got sold drink when I was 16. I think they really need to enforce the policy of ID'ing people further. Too many shopkeepers just don't care aslong as money is falling into their tills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwififer Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Sorry, what I meant was being banned to under 18's. And I can make my own mind up about what I can and cannot do without the goverment sticking it's nose into my business. I don't smoke btw, just get annoyed at the goverment trying to control people's lives. Nanny state and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 just get annoyed at the goverment trying to control people's lives. Nanny state and all that. This is a huge problem. Unfortunatly, I can't see this stopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundermonkey Posted September 10, 2007 Author Share Posted September 10, 2007 Sorry, what I meant was being banned to under 18's.And I can make my own mind up about what I can and cannot do without the goverment sticking it's nose into my business. I don't smoke btw, just get annoyed at the goverment trying to control people's lives. Nanny state and all that. Surely then you object to the knife stuff as well then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwififer Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Sorry, thats what I actually meant, selling knives to under 18's should be a huge no no. There was a 15 year old knived to death here at the weekend at a party. Gang related, so the problem is not just Scottish it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSam Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Thats true. On the other hand I got sold drink when I was 16. I think they really need to enforce the policy of ID'ing people further. Too many shopkeepers just don't care aslong as money is falling into their tills. A supermarket chain like Tesco is much more likely to be subjected to test purchases than a little corner shop though, which is why under age drinkers are much more likely to be successful in one of these places. I'm pretty confident that I've never sold alcohol to someone who was under 18 at the time, although I've more than likely sold to someone who has been purchasing for people who are underage, parents being the worst culprits. It's a difficult decision to make though, whether to refuse the sale on the belief that they might be purchasing it for their children. It tends not to happen. The penalties for selling to a person or persons under age ranges from an £80 fine to a court appearance and maximum fine of £5000 for the person selling, and the store losing it's license to sell alcohol which happened in England earlier this year I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whistle Blower Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 A supermarket chain like Tesco is much more likely to be subjected to test purchases than a little corner shop though And so they bloody should, I detest Tesco, and their I can't be arsed student check out folk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Age for buying cigarettes is increasing to 18 within the next couple of weeks. Since 17yr olds aren't mature enough to be trusted to buy cigarettes I suppose they could always keep busy by 1) Getting married. 2) Driving a Car 3) Joining the Army Its mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estragon Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 I wonder what the average price for petrol was when the smoking ban came in.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSam Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 And so they bloody should, I detest Tesco, and their I can't be arsed student check out folk. With most Tesco stores operating on a 24 hour basis now, it's difficult to find good quality customer assistants willing to work the 5-10's, 6-11's or 6-12's. The weekends are generally a no-no for these people too so it falls down to the students for whom these hours are the only hours that suit. They're not all bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whistle Blower Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 With most Tesco stores operating on a 24 hour basis now, it's difficult to find good quality customer assistants willing to work the 5-10's, 6-11's or 6-12's. The weekends are generally a no-no for these people too so it falls down to the students for whom these hours are the only hours that suit. They're not all bad. Despite being told I have my world saving bags with me, within 5 minutes they amazingly forget my clubcard points And this fecking scan your own, GTF, if I scan my own do I get a discount ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 And I can make my own mind up about what I can and cannot do without the goverment sticking it's nose into my business. I'm all for it. I don't smoke. I like going out to the pub. I don't like smelling of an ashtray afterwards. Smokers are the ultimate selfish b******s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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