peasy23 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 They have to think outside the box, they need a leader, not necessarily the greatest player but someone to step up. Buttler has done well elsewhere, maybe even Morgan. Could really go for it and bring in Livingstone. Giving it too Root has really hurt him. I did say at the time I thought the worst thing they could do was make him skipper. I would agree that to get the best from Root then they have to make a change sooner rather than later. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuctifano Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 England test cricket now has a distinctly 90s vibe to it again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Bit of hyperbole re Root. He’s not batting worse because of the captaincy. Stick with him unless he doesn’t want it. The problem is jiggering around with the batting lineup. Instead of lacking a 2, 3 and 5, they now lack a 2,4,5 and 7. I think we need to accept that this current side is mediocre at test level - and exceptional at one day level. False expectations and knock-em-while-they’re-down commentary doesn’t help. Develop an opener and this team suddenly looks okay. Develop an opener and a middle order batter and they’re a very decent side. No idea who those players would be, mind you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 England [emoji38]A performance summed up perfectly by Stokes's ego firstly fucking up a simple slip catch then tossing his wicket away.It's like having a less gifted Pietersen in the side again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I think we need to accept that this current side is mediocre at test level - and exceptional at one day level. There seems to be an attitude that winning the next World Cup is worth sacrificing the test team for.They could be doing some damage to their game meantime. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 There seems to be an attitude that winning the next World Cup is worth sacrificing the test team for.They could be doing some damage to their game meantime. As noted earlier every time England fail at something (The ashes, winning on subcontinental pitches, the World Cup...) there are calls to focus the whole of English cricket on that problem. If there are any efforts to actually do that then they usually only last till the next crisis England’s last World Cup was so dreadful though that they’ve actually been able to stick to a plan for once. And whilst we can argue over whether it was a good idea or not back then it would surely be daft to change course now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Game's a bogey. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Four wickets for seven runs in 26 minutes. Dire. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Even Pakistan can't throw this one away. I wouldn’t be too sure about that! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 I wouldn’t be too sure about that! Location: Malaysia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Four wickets for seven runs in 26 minutes. Dire. Brutal stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Jazz Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 So SKY has the players not playing enough before they were playing too much cricket. How about some of them just aren't good enough and Root is a terrible captain? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 One of the biggest concerns has to be that England don't do narrow defeats, when they lose it always seems to be by a big margin. The mental toughness just doesn't seem to be there, coupled with some bizarre team selections. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 It’s transition time. England’s proven performers are coming to the end of their careers ( Cook, Anderson, Broad) and the replacements are unproven. England will spend a while re-gearing and this looks as though this will be a lean summer. Suspect the coach will be replaced as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzza81 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Long shot but I’ve got a spare ticket for the Scotland England game at the Grange next Sunday if anyone is interested. Face value, obv. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 I'll always appreciate Vaughan for 2005 etc, but as a pundit he's really coming across as an arsehole. He's trying to be Boycott but without all of the things that makes Boycott actually worth listening to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Orton Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Mr fifty falls for 46. Least it saves him failing to convert again. 156-3 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 I'll always appreciate Vaughan for 2005 etc, but as a pundit he's really coming across as an arsehole. He's trying to be Boycott but without all of the things that makes Boycott actually worth listening to. In what way is he coming across as an arsehole?I always like him (but haven't heard much of this test match). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 England middle order collapsing again. Absolutely ridiculous decision to move Bairstow to five. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 In what way is he coming across as an arsehole?I always like him (but haven't heard much of this test match). I like Vaughn, although I suspect he’s just a personable Tory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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