Fuctifano Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 (edited) I can't seem to get the link to work, but I think you are talking about the famous 1963 Test at Lords when Colin Cowdrey came to the wicket, having retired hurt earlier in the innings with a broken wrist. He stood at the non-striker's end with a plaster cast on as England secured a draw. Not only a great batsman and a gentleman, but also incredibly brave. He was to face the menace of Lillee and Thompson some 21 years later as a 41 year old. Yeah, that's the one. Looking at old cricket scorecards throws up some weird things- in that England 2nd innings Wes Hall and Charlie Griffith who were the Windies opening bowlers bowled 71 of the 91 overs- if any fast bowler had that workload today they'd probably be out for about 6 months. Indeed in the Windies first innings, England's Denis Shackleton (whom to my shame I'd never heard of until now) had the figures of 50.2-22-93-3. Awesome stuff. edit: although if I'm being utterly pedantic Cowdrey was 30 when that game was played but did as you say play against the Aussies at 42 in 1975. Edited January 9, 2010 by Fuctifano 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 To me the recent tests v Australia and in SA underlines that Test cricket is alive and well,The Australia v Pakistan match was a good game as well. 20/20 50/40 over, are all very well,but for a true test between bat and ball,a test that brings in every little aspect of the game then the Test match reins supreme. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 (edited) Yeah, that's the one. Looking at old cricket scorecards throws up some weird things- in that England 2nd innings Wes Hall and Charlie Griffith who were the Windies opening bowlers bowled 71 of the 91 overs- if any fast bowler had that workload today they'd probably be out for about 6 months. Indeed in the Windies first innings, England's Denis Shackleton (whom to my shame I'd never heard of until now) had the figures of 50.2-22-93-3. Awesome stuff. edit: although if I'm being utterly pedantic Cowdrey was 30 when that game was played but did as you say play against the Aussies at 42 in 1975. Flintoff bowled 51 overs in Sri Lanka's second innings at Lord's in 2006. http://www.cricinfo....tch/225264.html Although, right enough, it probably did put him out for six months .... Edited January 9, 2010 by Yoss 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 (edited) A major difference between the Windies test in the '60's and the Sri Lanka test in 2005 is the absence of a rest day in the latter which obviously affects the ability of fast bowlers to bowl long spells and makes Flintoff's effort even more impressive. Edited January 10, 2010 by btb 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kullibino Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 I doubt he would have played anyway, but good news for England that Tahis's paperwork hasn't been put through properly yet. Wonder if thre Saffers will whinge about players born abroad so much if he does the business! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 England selectors vindicated according to England selector Geoff Millar. Fortune favours the brave! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 De Wet, as expected, is not fit for selection for the fourth test. Wayne Parnell, who has looked very impressive in the shorter formats of the game, will take his place. South Africa's only major decision is whether to pick Alviro Peterson to open and, if so, whether to drop Prince or Duminy. I'd expect Prince to make way for Peterson at the top of the order. England will, no doubt, remain unchanged. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCaig's Tower Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 I doubt he would have played anyway, but good news for England that Tahir's paperwork hasn't been put through properly yet. Paperwork, schmaperwork - just play him anyway...what harm can it do?? ;-) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 De Wet, as expected, is not fit for selection for the fourth test. Wayne Parnell, who has looked very impressive in the shorter formats of the game, will take his place. South Africa's only major decision is whether to pick Alviro Peterson to open and, if so, whether to drop Prince or Duminy. I'd expect Prince to make way for Peterson at the top of the order. England will, no doubt, remain unchanged. Agree with that. It is a result wicket by all accounts,not many draws and it favours the side winning the toss. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 (edited) I'm a bit worried about Parnell, he's looked very good in some of the one-dayers and I don't think it's a bad thing at all for SA that they're "forced" into giving him a Test debut. I doubt they'll change the top six, but we'll see. Duminy is the future, and his bowling is useful; Prince is a very good player too but clearly he's struggled to find form at the top of the order and is probably nearer to being edged out. It's more to do with the lack of a specialist opener though, and I don't think Peterson is one either. Since they're preparing a seaming wicket there's some talk they may also drop Harris for McLaren and rely on Duminy alone for a bit of spin. That would make some sense, I still don't rate Harris anyway. England have no decisions to make, unless there are any fitness doubts I don't know about. But I'm going to disagree with Miller that the selectors come out with a clean bill of health. I still maintain they went into the series with the wrong line-up though I guess it's difficult to argue with the position it's gotten us into (England do deserve their 1-0 lead despite the narrow margins of the two draws). The squad is definitely lopsided though, they've got at least one player (Rashid) and maybe another (Wright) who the captain and coach clearly don't trust as Test players, and if they were thinking about playing six batsman why only take the six? They had to draft Carberry in when Collingwood hurt his finger - but if that had happened the day before either of the first two Tests they'd have had to change the shape of the team through lack of a like-for-like sub. Edited January 12, 2010 by Yoss 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kullibino Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Who's cornflakes has Neil McKenzie pissed in? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 (edited) Talk that Graham Onions won't play in the test tomorrow. Could be an odd England side, shoving Look Right in to shore up the tail and play for the draw. I don't know which other quicks are out there to replace him. Sideshow Ryan probably. Edited January 13, 2010 by Jim Pansy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 I haven't heard the talk about Onions. But yes, if for any reason he can't play Sidebottom would be the natural replacement. I wouldn't mind that at all actually, he's still very capable of bowling well in the sort of conditions we're expecting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuctifano Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Parnell and McLaren confirmed as in for DeWet and Harris for SA- all seam attack with Duminy as back-up. No confirmation of Sidearse as yet, if the pitch is a seamer's paradise as they say then he should be pretty effective, and also brings a bit of variety. Would suspect SA will be using a remote-controlled coin for the toss! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuctifano Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Parnell and McLaren confirmed as in for DeWet and Harris for SA- all seam attack with Duminy as back-up. No confirmation of Sidearse as yet, if the pitch is a seamer's paradise as they say then he should be pretty effective, and also brings a bit of variety. Would suspect SA will be using a remote-controlled coin for the toss! Remote control coin fail. England win the toss and bat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Remote control coin fail. England win the toss and bat. The team winning the toss has on the whole done well on this pitch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Sidebottom in.Interesting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 1st ball of match duck for the skipper.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drs Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 12-2 mmmm. Great to see Arnie back in the team and lets be honest Onions has only been getting backslaps cos of his batting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 The team winning the toss has on the whole done well on this pitch. This will be the exception to the rule. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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