Reynard Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I think it will have to be Root opening, after all it is his regular position. I would keep Trott where he is at present. Even a KP with little cricket will be better than Compton who is quite frankly dreadful. Trott yesterday reminded me of Chris Tavare. Bell has slipped under the radar regarding his piss poor performances, though he always seems to come up with a score when the threat of the axe is hanging over him. Work to be done with the England top six Yeah I think Trott will stay put, he is a good number three. f**k knows what he was up to last night all the same, England had a bit of momentum with Cook scoring well, then Trott came in and started defending long hops, full tosses and half volleys. We should see a bit of a thrash in the morning session today depending on the weather forecast and maybe a declaration before lunch which in theory gives England five sessions to get NZ out. I reckon they will do it today especially as the forecast for tomorrow is supposed to be shite. I dont understand why they declared yesterday either, unless it was to have a last look at Compton before sending him back to the counties But I did feel sorry for the guy, you could tell he knew he basically had to get a big score or he was toast and he batted like his arms were tied together. But its the toughest of sports in that sense, and he has failed to deliver. If the weather stays ok today then England will win, probably today, NZ's batting is a fucking abortion. And thats a shame actually as their bowling has been very decent across both series really. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drs Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Compton has been mince, cheerio to him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Looks like the declaration will be either over lunch or very soon afterwards. That was a better session for England, Cook gets his ton and Trott has been in a better frame of mind too. Maybe give him a few overs after lunch for a bit of a slog and see if he can get the hundred too? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Orton Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Looks like the declaration will be either over lunch or very soon afterwards. That was a better session for England, Cook gets his ton and Trott has been in a better frame of mind too. Maybe give him a few overs after lunch for a bit of a slog and see if he can get the hundred too? No just declare. Five or six overs at least would be wasted waiting for him getting his ton. The way I see it it's Trott's own fault for not getting a ton after his efforts of yesterday evening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Still no sign of the roller so i imagine at least half an hour to 45 minutes after lunch. Lead of 500, 9 men round the wicket. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 i.e proper, proper creekit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Finally, England declare with a lead of 468. No wickets yet... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booitsme7 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 New Zealand 68-3 at tea so hopefully England can get the 7 wickets after tea so not to risk going in to the last day with the bad weather forecast. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Umpire's decision's a little generous to the batsman. Taylor was clearly out on that review. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Orton Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Ridiculously late declaration is going to knacker England here. Poor captaincy and coaching on this occasion it really was. Absolutely bewildering to bat on for so long with the forecast as it was and the general ineptness of the NZ Batting line up. Poor show. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 NZ 158-6 at the close. If we get a couple of hours play tomorrow then England should wrap it up. Big if though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Ridiculously late declaration is going to knacker England here. Agreed...I doubt NZ would even get to 250. Who was the billy big baws who called this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 If England roll over the tail in an hour in the morning, it'll look like a tremendous decision. It seems to be playing out well for England, you can't declare earlier on account of what the weather may or may not be like. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Orton Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 If England roll over the tail in an hour in the morning, it'll look like a tremendous decision. It seems to be playing out well for England, you can't declare earlier on account of what the weather may or may not be like. The money is on it being a washout like day one. You have to take the forecast into account as it's part of the nuances of test match cricket. Irrespective of that is the fact that setting a team like NZ 468 is unbelievable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 The money is on it being a washout like day one. You have to take the forecast into account as it's part of the nuances of test match cricket. Irrespective of that is the fact that setting a team like NZ 468 is unbelievable. Totally disagree. England have already won the series. From England's perspective, a 1-0 series win is the same as a 2-0 series win. If this was Australia, nobody would quibble about the declaration. If the weather was set fair tomorrow, nobody would quibble. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Totally disagree. England have already won the series. From England's perspective, a 1-0 series win is the same as a 2-0 series win. If this was Australia, nobody would quibble about the declaration. If the weather was set fair tomorrow, nobody would quibble. But it's not Australia, and the weather isn't set fair. England should have enforced the follow on, the game would be over by now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Orton Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Totally disagree. England have already won the series. From England's perspective, a 1-0 series win is the same as a 2-0 series win. If this was Australia, nobody would quibble about the declaration. If the weather was set fair tomorrow, nobody would quibble. Not if a return to the number one test side in the world is the eventual aim. It's about winning test matches and putting a marker down. The weather isn't set fair and it's a poor Kiwi side that if a correct declaration had been made would already be reflecting on a two nil defeat this evening. More refreshingly isn't it a joy to be arguing about potential victories as opposed to the barren years of the nineties. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 But it's not Australia, and the weather isn't set fair. England should have enforced the follow on, the game would be over by now. The weather was supposed to be fine afternoon and evening on the first day. You can't take the weather into account in making an early declaration. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Not if a return to the number one test side in the world is the eventual aim. It's about winning test matches and putting a marker down. The weather isn't set fair and it's a poor Kiwi side that if a correct declaration had been made would already be reflecting on a two nil defeat this evening. More refreshingly isn't it a joy to be arguing about potential victories as opposed to the barren years of the nineties. Well quite. I heard Root compared with Atherton the other day. Thought that was terribly unkind! Atherton's a great commentator (as most of them are) but he was a sullen captain in a hapless team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Orton Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Well quite. I heard Root compared with Atherton the other day. Thought that was terribly unkind! Atherton's a great commentator (as most of them are) but he was a sullen captain in a hapless team. Poor old Athers. Look at some of the bowlers he had to face. McGrath & Warne, Donald & Pollock. Waqar & Wasim, Walsh & Ambrose, Murali & Vaas. He had the world on his shoulders captaining a poor side and with his long standing back trouble. Vintage Atherton was of course his magnificent innings in SA. I wonder how well Atherton would have done if he had had a decent team around him. That's cricket though. Young Root looks like a cheery sort, something that could never be said about Athers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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