The Cricket Thread

[Bearwithme]

Monty has gone on loan at Essex till the end of the season. Good luck to him.

[FuzzyBear]

I told you Shane Watson was a dreadful player.

To be honest I reckon I could have scored runs off Woakes and Kerrigan.

Edited August 22, 2013 by FuzzyBear

[Fuctifano]

Can I still post "Kerri pies"?

That was a proper choke, was awful to watch but they need to stick with him for the rest of the match.

On the other hand, Woakes was exactly as I thought, decent enough odi bowler but he's not going to get guys out in tests.

Watson played well, was probably due a break and got it when the lbw was turned down when he was in single figures. Plenty of umps would have given that one and he would have been unable to overturn it.

[Reynard]

Can I still post "Kerri pies"?

That was a proper choke, was awful to watch but they need to stick with him for the rest of the match.

On the other hand, Woakes was exactly as I thought, decent enough odi bowler but he's not going to get guys out in tests.

Watson played well, was probably due a break and got it when the lbw was turned down when he was in single figures. Plenty of umps would have given that one and he would have been unable to overturn it.

I havent seen that big a bottle crash in a debutever I don't think. I certainly cant think of anything quite as bad.

His action is suspect for a kick off,he bowls round arm which means bounce is pretty much ruled out his game. Swann and Panesar both have high actions which means they will find it a lot easier to drop the ball on the same spot for ball after ball. Panesar in aprticular gets a lot of bounce even if the ball isnt spinning that much which means he can at least bowl an end to let the captain rest and rotate the seamers. And Kerrigan doesn't look like he rips it that much either.FFS, what a fucking calamity of a debut spell. Cook will be shitting it for the rest of the match if he is confronted with the prospect of letting him have another shot. Woakes, looks ordinary too but at least he recovered from his ropey beginning and got his line and length right. He didn't look capable of getting wickets though.

As for Watson, he looked good, and he got the big score he has looked capable of doing. I like the bloke, I think he is a good player and his confidence will build from this. His bowling is vital for Australia too as he ties up and end and doesnt leak runs and nicks the odd wicket too. He seems to get a harder time than he should do from a lot of folk. He does have the LBW issue ongoing, but he batted a bit straighter yesterday and although he was out LBW earlyish on he cashed in on a lot of shite bowled at him and he paced his innings really nicely. It took a major catch to get him out too.

Australia need to be looking at over 500 if they can although the rain might have changed conditions a fair bit and made it a bit better for bowling. Will find that out soon enough. Even so, with 300 up already they have to be confident of nailing this game. Its already there for them if they play well. Smith looked good apart from his first ball swipe and should be looking to get his century, the major glimmer of hope for England is Australais tail has pretty much started already. Siddle and Haddin can waft the bat of course, but realistically, England need to try and knock the tail over swiftly, something they havent been very good at really in general. And there are a few English batsmen "due" as well.

I enjoyed yesterdays play, it was good to see Watson do well and I thought both Broad and Anderson deserved better than they go, they both bowled well and Broad was quite hostile at times. Swann had a shitload of bowling to do thanks to the calamitous efforts from Kerrigan and Woakes (although Woakes did recover). It actually augers well for Woakes that he got his act together because he could have been traumatised by Watsons demolition ofhis opening spell. Kerrigan could well be shot to bits though. It will be interesting to see how much bowling he gets now.

[wulliemc]

Can I still post "Kerri pies"?

That was a proper choke, was awful to watch but they need to stick with him for the rest of the match.

On the other hand, Woakes was exactly as I thought, decent enough odi bowler but he's not going to get guys out in tests.

Watson played well, was probably due a break and got it when the lbw was turned down when he was in single figures. Plenty of umps would have given that one and he would have been unable to overturn it.

 

 

I havent seen that big a bottle crash in a debutever I don't think. I certainly cant think of anything quite as bad.

 

Khan for England a few yeard back. If memory serves he was Danish and made his debut vs WI in the carribean and strayed it all over the place. Sure Vaughan was skipper and he was better off playing with 10 men

[Christophe]

Been a fine series, it hasn't had the thrills of 2009 or the joy of sheer domination of 2010-11 but still.

[craigkillie]

Australia treating it like an ODI in this evening session. Just trying to get runs on the board as quickly as possible. 446-8 now. Looks like they'll end up with 470ish.

[nelsjfc]

Absolutely flying at the moment. Added 85 runs since tea even with England on a go slow.

Imagine the declaration will come next 15 mins or so, and hope to get a wicket or two tonight

[WullieBroonIsGod]

This over rate is abysmal.

[die hard doonhamer]

So Cook bowled Trott ahead of Kerrigan today. That will do the boy more psycological damage than his woeful spell yesterday. Odds on this being his only cap?

Edited August 22, 2013 by die hard doonhamer

[WullieBroonIsGod]

So Cook bowled Trott ahead of Kerrigan today. That will do the boy more phsycological damage than his woeful spell yesterday. Odds on this being his only cap?

Be very interesting to see how he goes in the second innings. But the lad surely can't feel like he belongs at that level.

Cook should have let him have a bowl at the tail enders when they were slogging. He may have picked up a cheap wicket and it would make a huge difference to how he feels.

The Aussies were pulling on the runs anyway so there was nothing to lose. If anything they may have gone too hard at him and made s mistake

Edited August 22, 2013 by WullieBroonIsGod

[MB]

England will just look to avoid the follow-on. Do that and they should be able to avoid defeat. Easier said than done as the Aussies will have their tails up in this final hour or so.

[Jupiter Jazz]

I've shouted for two spinners all summer unfortunately we got Kerrigan, who looks every inch a Championship Divsion 2 bowler. As does Woakes. What a perplexing,out of nowhere team selection. Would have thought they would have wanted a look to see how Tremlett is getting on but it's almost like they're taking the piss.

[Reynard]

I've shouted for two spinners all summer unfortunately we got Kerrigan, who looks every inch a Championship Divsion 2 bowler. As does Woakes. What a perplexing,out of nowhere team selection. Would have thought they would have wanted a look to see how Tremlett is getting on but it's almost like they're taking the piss.

England have never needed two spinners this series, they went thre nil by operating with one world class spinner and three good seamers. Thats what they should have done here, instead they went with one world class spinner, a guy whose specialist delivery seems to be the one that goes straight on. Two good seamers, and Woakes who looks less threatening than Johnathon Trott.

As strange team selections go, that one is right up there. Absolutely no idea why they didn't go with Tremlett or Finn and just leave Bairstow where he was for the last test.

I havent spoken to a single person anywhere that can understand the selection decision. Its not even as if either of the new guys have been tearing it up in county cricket. They were nowhere near the test squad prior to this and then suddenly win caps? Someone like Tremlett or Finn hammering the ball down fast on that wicket would have been a good option for Cook to turn to, all he was left with was Trott and crossing his fingers that Woakes didn't get too badly raped.

[Reynard]

Be very interesting to see how he goes in the second innings. But the lad surely can't feel like he belongs at that level.

Cook should have let him have a bowl at the tail enders when they were slogging. He may have picked up a cheap wicket and it would make a huge difference to how he feels.

The Aussies were pulling on the runs anyway so there was nothing to lose. If anything they may have gone too hard at him and made s mistake

He's playing his county cricket in the second division. Fair enough, Monty has been out on the piss for weeks now but I reckon he could have turned up half cut and produced better.

[WullieBroonIsGod]

Be very interesting to see how he goes in the second innings. But the lad surely can't feel like he belongs at that level.

Cook should have let him have a bowl at the tail enders when they were slogging. He may have picked up a cheap wicket and it would make a huge difference to how he feels.

The Aussies were pulling on the runs anyway so there was nothing to lose. If anything they may have gone too hard at him and made s mistake

 

 

 

He's playing his county cricket in the second division. Fair enough, Monty has been out on the piss for weeks now but I reckon he could have turned up half cut and produced better.

Add long as he didn't piss on anyone from the team balcony

[nelsjfc]

Could argue Woakes would have been understandable to have a look as all-rounder + fourth seamer in place of bairstow? Obviously the selection of another spinner doesn't help him but if he does alright with the bat might be worth taking?

[Reynard]

Could argue Woakes would have been understandable to have a look as all-rounder + fourth seamer in place of bairstow? Obviously the selection of another spinner doesn't help him but if he does alright with the bat might be worth taking?

Yes, thats a possibility. He's a fourth choice seamer though by the look of it, it doesn't plug the gaping hole in the bowling attack.

[Reynard]

He's a Shane Watson type bowler who can be used to hold an end up to give the proper bowlers a rest. England don't really need a bowler like that when they have Swann around as he can do that job fine. Need a look at the guys batting now obviously.

[Arthur Orton]

England have never needed two spinners this series, they went thre nil by operating with one world class spinner and three good seamers. Thats what they should have done here, instead they went with one world class spinner, a guy whose specialist delivery seems to be the one that goes straight on. Two good seamers, and Woakes who looks less threatening than Johnathon Trott.

As strange team selections go, that one is right up there. Absolutely no idea why they didn't go with Tremlett or Finn and just leave Bairstow where he was for the last test.

I havent spoken to a single person anywhere that can understand the selection decision. Its not even as if either of the new guys have been tearing it up in county cricket. They were nowhere near the test squad prior to this and then suddenly win caps? Someone like Tremlett or Finn hammering the ball down fast on that wicket would have been a good option for Cook to turn to, all he was left with was Trott and crossing his fingers that Woakes didn't get too badly raped.

Absolutely spot on. When I saw the line up yesterday it was a case of sheer disbelief. I have no idea the rational behind it and it's proved to be bloody disastrous. It's meant to be the team getting pumped 3-0 that makes desperate changes. Woakes has never improved on what we was a couple of years ago and Kerrigan is nowhere near ready - he made Peter Such look like Derek Underwood.

Tremlett took all five wickets that fell today and I can't believe they didn't let him or Finn loose in this test. So much for building up momentum ahead of the winter.

The selectors deserve a boot in the balls for this shambles.