honestly united Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 3 hours ago, salmonbuddie said: That's the part that's difficult to believe... Its probably part of our new 5 year plan to win the world cup 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddfg Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 How come Glasgow and Edinburgh are both SRU owned but Edinburgh supporters with season tickets get free entry to two preseason games and Glasgow are having to pay for theirs? Plus Edinburgh tickets are considerably cheaper in the first place, if the Glasgow ones had a big increase for player retention does that mean they aren't interested in improving the Edinburgh squad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 12 hours ago, ddfg said: How come Glasgow and Edinburgh are both SRU owned but Edinburgh supporters with season tickets get free entry to two preseason games and Glasgow are having to pay for theirs? Plus Edinburgh tickets are considerably cheaper in the first place, if the Glasgow ones had a big increase for player retention does that mean they aren't interested in improving the Edinburgh squad. Is it not just more to do with the fact Glasgow can sell theirs and Edinburgh can't? I'm sure Edinburgh would be charging the same if they thought they could sell them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 So still nothing heard about the pro 14 format. I'm sure in the last bbc article about it the league format was to be finalized for this week just gone. It's simply not good enough and is beyond a joke. And with the situation with zebre and Italian rugby in general testing times ahead for the league 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 So still nothing heard about the pro 14 format. I'm sure in the last bbc article about it the league format was to be finalized for this week just gone. It's simply not good enough and is beyond a joke. And with the situation with zebre and Italian rugby in general testing times ahead for the league Yep it's farcical now. It was crazy to try to make such fundamental changes for this season so close to the start. Absolute amateur hour. Amazed clubs haven't started to kick off. Surely the logistics of accommodation / travel booking for hospitality etc etc are getting critical. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 1 minute ago, dogmc said: Yep it's farcical now. It was crazy to try to make such fundamental changes for this season so close to the start. Absolute amateur hour. Amazed clubs haven't started to kick off. Surely the logistics of accommodation / travel booking for hospitality etc etc are getting critical. Even just a statement to say where they are in the negotiations with all those involved would be better than the wall of silence that the fans currently have. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Even just a statement to say where they are in the negotiations with all those involved would be better than the wall of silence that the fans currently have. Totally agree. Can't imagine TV companies are too chuffed either as they can't advertise schedules. It must be costing the clubs money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 1 hour ago, dogmc said: Totally agree. Can't imagine TV companies are too chuffed either as they can't advertise schedules. It must be costing the clubs money. Its a terrible advert to potential and existing fans. And it certainly doesn't paint the associated unions in any positive light. Its not that I wanna moan about I just want clarification. This season I'm excited to see what happens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Its a terrible advert to potential and existing fans. And it certainly doesn't paint the associated unions in any positive light. Its not that I wanna moan about I just want clarification. This season I'm excited to see what happens. Yep agreed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggy Snake Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 To be fair, I'm not saying they've done it well but the league is only trying to react to other events going on. Obviously there was already talk of South African teams joining but that would originally have been planned a year or two in advance. Only the two teams getting kicked out Super Rugby meant it all had to be done last minute. The league didn't have much choice as the two clubs had players under contract and could hardly sit about for 12 months with no income and join the following year. Add in the Italians messing about with Zebre, again something they could have organised during the previous season, and an issue I'm sure the Celtic league were worried about. Yes, their communication has been poor but they can't really announce anything until things are official. Any losses clubs make will be more than made up for by the extra money coming in for now and in future seasons they'll have time to organise the fixtures etc well in advance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Edinburgh 4th choice hooker George Turner is moving to Glasgow for the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Did anyone else see on the BBC sport rugby union page about the SRU rehashed plan for the semi pro league. 6 teams this time based in Glasgow, Edinburgh, Borders and North and Midlands district. 2 more based elsewhere. Elsewhere I don't know any ideas?? I like the idea to bridge the gap but will the fans flock to to these teams I dunno. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 You would have thought the likes of Ayr and Stirling would ve in the mix, as the others plus you would have thought the likes of additional borders teams. Maybe Dundee if n&m goes to Aberdeen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Did anyone else see on the BBC sport rugby union page about the SRU rehashed plan for the semi pro league. 6 teams this time based in Glasgow, Edinburgh, Borders and North and Midlands district. 2 more based elsewhere. Elsewhere I don't know any ideas?? I like the idea to bridge the gap but will the fans flock to to these teams I dunno. Looks like a proper mess 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddfg Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Re the Pro12 I messaged the Warriors on Friday as much out of devilment as anything to ask what was going on and got a reply saying they haven't heard anything from Pro12, I wasn't expecting a personal early view of the set up and fixture list but c'mon show us it isn't amateur hour 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 3 hours ago, honestly united said: You would have thought the likes of Ayr and Stirling would ve in the mix, as the others plus you would have thought the likes of additional borders teams. Maybe Dundee if n&m goes to Aberdeen Well I thought that they would be genenerally city based with drawn out Catchment area's. Glasgow - taking in southwest and west of Scotland Edinburgh - taking in Fife and Lothian Borders Stirling - taking in central Scotland Dundee/Perth - taking in north of the Tay and Angus Aberdeen - taking in Aberdeenshire, Banff etc I realise this doesn't include inverness or the highland and island areas however these are the areas with concentrated population. I don't know how they will market this though. Rugby isn't the biggest sport in Scotland and is only healthy supported really on a national level. Yes Glasgow do well but Edinburgh and then into leagues are probably struggling to attract the fans. I wish the SRU luck with this venture 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Well I thought that they would be genenerally city based with drawn out Catchment area's. Glasgow - taking in southwest and west of Scotland Edinburgh - taking in Fife and Lothian Borders Stirling - taking in central Scotland Dundee/Perth - taking in north of the Tay and Angus Aberdeen - taking in Aberdeenshire, Banff etc I realise this doesn't include inverness or the highland and island areas however these are the areas with concentrated population. I don't know how they will market this though. Rugby isn't the biggest sport in Scotland and is only healthy supported really on a national level. Yes Glasgow do well but Edinburgh and then into leagues are probably struggling to attract the fans. I wish the SRU luck with this venture It took years for even Glasgow n embra to attract decent crowds. It's not that long ago that 4 figure crowds were seen as a good turnout. The top tier of the club league are all semi pro anyway, really don't see how this new idea will be sustainable and what it's likely to achieve. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 2 hours ago, dogmc said: It took years for even Glasgow n embra to attract decent crowds. It's not that long ago that 4 figure crowds were seen as a good turnout. The top tier of the club league are all semi pro anyway, really don't see how this new idea will be sustainable and what it's likely to achieve. Well i can only assume its to progress towards a truly 3rd Pro team or its to be able to better compete in the B & I cup. If these semi pro league clubs can bring in 4 figure crowds they will be doing well. Probably only when Glasgow and Edinburgh are playing away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Well i can only assume its to progress towards a truly 3rd Pro team or its to be able to better compete in the B & I cup. If these semi pro league clubs can bring in 4 figure crowds they will be doing well. Probably only when Glasgow and Edinburgh are playing away. Yep I just don't see them getting the crowds needed to be sustainable. The top tier is already semi pro so surely a better idea to subsidise those clubs (assistance with strength & conditioning facilities, 4G pitches etc). Maybe look at a semi pro district championship playing home n away with winners going to b&i cup?? If established teams struggle for crowds where will the appeal be in artificial ones? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, dogmc said: Yep I just don't see them getting the crowds needed to be sustainable. The top tier is already semi pro so surely a better idea to subsidise those clubs (assistance with strength & conditioning facilities, 4G pitches etc). Maybe look at a semi pro district championship playing home n away with winners going to b&i cup?? If established teams struggle for crowds where will the appeal be in artificial ones? As with many clubs in any sport the history of that club means a lot more than just simply creating a team. These teams have to compliment the gap between domestic clubs and the pro ones. It will suit players who can better find their level and it will probably improve coaching standards as coaches will find their level. I was thinking district championship but the SRU probably have to re draw the district lines. It could work but marketing is critical. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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