John Lambies Doos Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 NZ will completely rout Wales tomorrow in Gatlands last game...Pleasing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Great try! We want 50 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snobot Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 14 after 14 mins. We want 80 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Full pie face handoff there. Lovely. Also nice to see AWJ raging that he's not being allowed to ref the game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Full pie face handoff there. Lovely. Also nice to see AWJ raging that he's not being allowed to ref the game.I honestly thought you weren’t allowed to do that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: I honestly thought you weren’t allowed to do that. As long as it's an open hand and there is minimal extension of the arm it's ok. What an offload by SBW and line by Crotty. Still think they should have picked those two last week 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 As long as it's an open hand and there is minimal extension of the arm it's ok. What an offload by SBW and line by Crotty. Still think they should have picked those two last weekImagine having centres who can do that, Townsend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Is having only 2 professional (full time) teams in Scotland the reason why we have so little strength in depth? Could we support (financially) 2 or 3 more teams like the Welsh and Irish have? Aberdeen? Dundee? Stirling? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, sjc said: Is having only 2 professional (full time) teams in Scotland the reason why we have so little strength in depth? Could we support (financially) 2 or 3 more teams like the Welsh and Irish have? Aberdeen? Dundee? Stirling? It's still the long term plan, but finance has been the problem. It's only in the last couple of years that they finally paid off the debt from the Murrayfield redevelopment. When they decided to do that in 1992/3, they could obviously afford it because rugby was never going to go professional... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Is having only 2 professional (full time) teams in Scotland the reason why we have so little strength in depth? Could we support (financially) 2 or 3 more teams like the Welsh and Irish have? Aberdeen? Dundee? Stirling?Whether the SRU’s claim to be finally “debt free” is technically true is a question for accountants to quibble over but they’re clearly in a better place than they were 12 years ago when the Border Reivers folded. Never mind 22 years ago when Caledonia Reds (Aberdeen/Perth) played their last game. So there must be some consideration of the ideaGlasgow’s relative success has allowed them to build the size of following that most top flight There’s always been a confusion as to the primary purpose of the pro teams and for that matter the Welsh districts and Irish province sides. Do they exist to compete in their own right or are they development squads for their parent unions?Expansion would dilute the talent playing in the Pro 14 but would probably be a good thing for the national team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 There certainly won't be a 3rd team until they assess whether or not the Super 6 is better at developing players for pro level than the previous system. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Technically we do now hve more pro teams, as well as the Super 6's, we have some sort of part ownership in Nice in France (think Federale level in France at the moment), and DC Old Glory in the MLS where we are sending players for development, but not in great numbers. Pity the tie up with London Scottish didn't work out as that could have been a good stepping stone to the pro teams, or even better if the made the premiership. The Super 6 teams seem loaded with age grade internationals so hopefully helps giving them game time, but a 3rd Pro team in the Pro14 should be the goal whenever there is another expansion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afca32 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Players wise we are pretty close to being ready for a third team. In positions like backrow and scrum half we are producing quality young players every year and there is a logjam in front of them meaning a 3rd team would be ideal. At loosehead prop and fly half however we are already relying on foreign imports at pro level. Financially the SRU are unwilling and possibly unable to fund a 3rd pro team, especially given the support may not be there for them. It is getting to the stage however that a 3rd team is a necessity if we are to improve and hopefully it'll come in the next 5 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Lol at watching Glasgow get nilled by Dragons and thinking what we need is another team. The Edinburgh squad is on the up at the moment but the Glasgow squad needs a massive refresh. Talk of a third side is crazy just on the basis of playing resources without considering potential locations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 28 minutes ago, Detournement said: Lol at watching Glasgow get nilled by Dragons and thinking what we need is another team. The Edinburgh squad is on the up at the moment but the Glasgow squad needs a massive refresh. Talk of a third side is crazy just on the basis of playing resources without considering potential locations. Depth is definetly there, the team that lost to dragons were all** capped to at least under 20 level, Glasgows problems are much bigger than just depth of squad. We do have a shortage of Stand offs but other than that we have enough players for a third team, although granted they would probably be lower end of the Pro14 ** at most 1 or 2 maybe weren't capped at u20, haven't checked the team but there were at least 10 full scottish internationals, Kebble & Thompson both u20 for SA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Being capped at Scotland u20 level doesn't mean anything. Most of the guys capped at that level don't turn Pro. There is nowhere near enough depth for a third pro team without crippling the other two teams when the internationals are away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afca32 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 The Glasgow squad does not need a massive refresh. It's largely the same squad that took them to the final last year, and they had an exceptional record while the internationals were away. Their problems this season largely stem from 9 and 10 and with Horne and Hastings back that issue should hopefully be eased. They should've done more to try and replace Hogg over the summer and another 10 should've been brought in at least for the World Cup but other than that there is not much wrong with it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Being capped at Scotland u20 level doesn't mean anything. Most of the guys capped at that level don't turn Pro. There is nowhere near enough depth for a third pro team without crippling the other two teams when the internationals are away. Introducing a new team would be a short term step back to hopefully achieve two steps forward in the medium termAnd that would still be the case if Edinburgh and Glasgow were both flying high. And imagine the moaning there would be about breaking up a European cup winning teamThe depth isn’t there to have a 3rd team but we can’t increase the depth without a 3rd teamAgain it depends on whether you think that the SRU should be concentrating on the six Nations or the Pro 14 but I think it’s a nettle that will need to be grasped 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 hour ago, afca32 said: The Glasgow squad does not need a massive refresh. It's largely the same squad that took them to the final last year, and they had an exceptional record while the internationals were away. Their problems this season largely stem from 9 and 10 and with Horne and Hastings back that issue should hopefully be eased. They should've done more to try and replace Hogg over the summer and another 10 should've been brought in at least for the World Cup but other than that there is not much wrong with it. For me Swinson, Harley and Gibbins are done. That leaves a big hole in the back row although they do look stronger at lock. In the backs they are short at 10 and the whole back three needs a revamp. Niko, Seymour and DTH are probably the starters and they are all over 30 as is Lee Jones. Jackson is done and Rory Hughes is decent for run of the mill Pro 14 but gets found out a higher level. Bryce isn't good enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 hour ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: The depth isn’t there to have a 3rd team but we can’t increase the depth without a 3rd team Both squads are full of journeymen non Scottish qualified players. If we want to increase depth then it will involved getting rid of those guys. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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