Rugby Union

[honestly united]

58 minutes ago, Sensible Soccer said:

Is this the last straw we're grasping at, skelping the Romanians, would allow just a regular (8 point) victory over Ireland?

My take is that points difference only counts if all 3 are tied on 15 points, with the team with the highest points going through first, then 2nd place goes on head to head (ie whoever beat who in the pool matches). The permutations are a clusterf*ck but its a mute point if we dont beat Ireland.

If SA beat Tonga with a try bp, we need a win with or without a try bonus, and no bp for Ireland and we are through (Both us and SA on 15, Ire 14, SA top group on head to head or SA15, us and Ireland on 14, we go through on head to head against Ire).

If Ireland get 2 BP's in a high scoring shoot out then we are also out which would be the most Scottish thing ever so look out for a 40-37 win for Scotland.

If we get a BP win and Ireland get a losing bp so we are all on 15 points, and Ireland have the best points difference we are out (SA get 2nd on head to head). So us or SA having a better points difference than Ireland, is the best outcome, if we beat Ireland.

SA winning by 30/40 over Tonga would see them top Ireland if we win and at the moment we need 109 point turn around vs Ireland. The best probable out come is SA topping group on points diff with a big win.

or we hope for a Tonga win over SA which is another set of permutations!

 

[Salvo Montalbano]

8 minutes ago, honestly united said:

My take is that points difference only counts if all 3 are tied on 15 points, with the team with the highest points going through first, then 2nd place goes on head to head (ie whoever beat who in the pool matches). The permutations are a clusterf*ck but its a mute point if we dont beat Ireland.

If SA beat Tonga with a try bp, we need a win with or without a try bonus, and no bp for Ireland and we are through (Both us and SA on 15, Ire 14, SA top group on head to head or SA15, us and Ireland on 14, we go through on head to head against Ire).

If Ireland get 2 BP's in a high scoring shoot out then we are also out which would be the most Scottish thing ever so look out for a 40-37 win for Scotland.

If we get a BP win and Ireland get a losing bp so we are all on 15 points, and Ireland have the best points difference we are out (SA get 2nd on head to head). So us or SA having a better points difference than Ireland, is the best outcome, if we beat Ireland.

SA winning by 30/40 over Tonga would see them top Ireland if we win and at the moment we need 109 point turn around vs Ireland. The best probable out come is SA topping group on points diff with a big win.

or we hope for a Tonga win over SA which is another set of permutations!

 

If Tonga beat South Africa (not that it will happen?), would a 3-0 win for us see us both through, assuming we get a BP against Romania?

[honestly united]

7 minutes ago, Salvo Montalbano said:

If Tonga beat South Africa (not that it will happen?), would a 3-0 win for us see us both through, assuming we get a BP against Romania?

if SA only got no or 1 bp in losing to Tonga a draw would see both us and Ireland through (assuming we get a bp win vs Romania). Ireland would already be through so we would only need to win if SA picked up 2 bp in their lose. In fact depending on how many bp's SA picked up in losing we would just need to better their bp's if possible if we picked up the BP win this weekend although SA losing is not something I would be pinning my hopes on.

[Salvo Montalbano]

14 minutes ago, honestly united said:

if SA only got no or 1 bp in losing to Tonga a draw would see both us and Ireland through (assuming we get a bp win vs Romania). Ireland would already be through so we would only need to win if SA picked up 2 bp in their lose. In fact depending on how many bp's SA picked up in losing we would just need to better their bp's if possible if we picked up the BP win this weekend although SA losing is not something I would be pinning my hopes on.

Oh absolutely not, it won't happen but good to know all the possibilities!

[Mark Connolly]

Clarification that you can tackle Scottish players in the head and get away with it, but if you f**k about with one of World Rugby's golden boys, you've had it

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/sep/26/namibias-johan-deysel-handed-five-match-ban-for-tackle-on-antoine-dupont

[ajwffc]

Fifita gets a 4 match ban for his red 

[honestly united]

I see Sexton could be in trouble due to taking what looks like some sort of energy gel during the SA game on the pitch which is against the current rules (which is water only i beleive) - cue 1 week ban rather than 1 game and him being available for our game

[ajwffc]

Namibia losing the head 
3 men in the bin. 2 at the moment both under review 

[HibeeJibee]

Namibia have qualified for every RWC since 1999 (before that Zimbabwe and Ivory Coast won Africa).

Unless they overturn this deficit in last 10mins they'll still never have won a game.

Hopeless.

[ajwffc]

25 games with out a win going in to this match 

[topcat(The most tip top)]

1 hour ago, ajwffc said:

25 games with out a win going in to this match 

Last bastion of amateurism 

[ajwffc]

That was the most points scored by Namibia in a match. Unlucky for them it was also the most points scored by Uruguay in a match  

[ajwffc]

team for saturday 

[GAD]

The Samoan players were so intent on making a "big hit" on the Japan player they forgot the actual aim of the tackle is to bring him down.

[ajwffc]

1 minute ago, GAD said:

The Samoan players were so intent on making a "big hit" on the Japan player they forgot the actual aim of the tackle is to bring him down.

Makes a change for hitting them high and with no arms 

[topcat(The most tip top)]

It’s now 11 days without defeat for the northern hemisphere.

[Lurkst]

Italy being pastramied here...

 

[sparky88]

4 minutes ago, Lurkst said:

Italy being pastramied here...

 

Hibs v Aston Villa energy

[Bialystock]

Italy have just given up. 

[Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo]

To try tackling occasionally might be a good tactic.