Distant Doonhamer Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Nic Berry. From now to be known as Nic Beret. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Burying the lead slightly but does anyone know why we were in blue and France in white yesterday? I thought the etiquette in rugby is that the home team changes colours when there’s a clash. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 I’ve woken up still absolutely foaming about this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 My take was that Nic Berry hasnt seen the grounding so goes to the TMO which is the correct thing, as always if you havent seen something it hasnt happened. If Berry is going by the TMO (oh its down, oh wait a minute its not) he cant award the try. I wasnt at the game so cant say, but if those pictures are on the screens at Murrayfield, Berry can 100% change his mind (there have been plenty of examples of ref's saying on field is this, then seeing the pictures and changing there minds not waiting on the TMO to tell them.). If Berry has seen that and still gone, no try that is terrible reffing. We now have an Irish parade to the grand slam, rather than a contest. If Scotland had won it sets up a last day shoot out with Ireland (which we would lose) as I can see us beating Italy and England. It devalued the competition and everyone knows there is nothing to play for now. On the performance, again Scotland always look toothless when we are 5 metres out and the forwards are battering away. Out of all the top teams we must be the worst. Saying that I think we had a lot more composure than I think I remember us ever having, the ball looked wet and there were a few fumbled passes so probably didnt suit or usual game, if we had won no one would have been complaining (too much) about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Worst decision ever seen Tmo clearly biased and should no longer be welcome in the country 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 There's morons still trying to defend the decision by saying there could have been a hand under the ball. It's amazing the shite that people come away with to defend the indefensible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
come on shire Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 2 hours ago, JS_FFC said: Burying the lead slightly but does anyone know why we were in blue and France in white yesterday? I thought the etiquette in rugby is that the home team changes colours when there’s a clash. I thought so too but that's traditional values but maybe now in professionalism there's a demand for home teams in home kits. Having said that, the home team will always change when Oz, NZ and SA visit as their colours have huge media and marketing appeal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Nigel Owen all but saying it was a try on Five Live. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 3 hours ago, JS_FFC said: Burying the lead slightly but does anyone know why we were in blue and France in white yesterday? I thought the etiquette in rugby is that the home team changes colours when there’s a clash. Normally the away team picks what top they want to use. So France must have wanted to use their white top? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snobot Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 What the f*ck is this? Italy by 50 please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Jesus suffering Christ. The Ireland and Italy anthems are being butchered by an opera singer and a four year old. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Gonna be a long afternoon for Italy I fear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 14 minutes ago, Left Back said: Gonna be a long afternoon for Italy I fear. They have to have a better scrum half than Reg Varney. He’s so ponderous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Scotland could have a field day against these Italian centres. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, Savage Henry said: Scotland could have a field day against these Italian centres. On previous form, Scotland would bottleit. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 7 hours ago, honestly united said: My take was that Nic Berry hasnt seen the grounding so goes to the TMO which is the correct thing, as always if you havent seen something it hasnt happened. If Berry is going by the TMO (oh its down, oh wait a minute its not) he cant award the try. I wasnt at the game so cant say, but if those pictures are on the screens at Murrayfield, Berry can 100% change his mind (there have been plenty of examples of ref's saying on field is this, then seeing the pictures and changing there minds not waiting on the TMO to tell them.). If Berry has seen that and still gone, no try that is terrible reffing. We now have an Irish parade to the grand slam, rather than a contest. If Scotland had won it sets up a last day shoot out with Ireland (which we would lose) as I can see us beating Italy and England. It devalued the competition and everyone knows there is nothing to play for now. On the performance, again Scotland always look toothless when we are 5 metres out and the forwards are battering away. Out of all the top teams we must be the worst. Saying that I think we had a lot more composure than I think I remember us ever having, the ball looked wet and there were a few fumbled passes so probably didnt suit or usual game, if we had won no one would have been complaining (too much) about it. For me the tournament and even the sport has been badly damaged by what happened yesterday. I'm watching the game with my pals who are mostly football fans and they can't understand what's happened. It's clear the ball is on the ground, there is nowhere else it can be, yet people are genuinely arguing that despite this they were correct to ignore that and award the win to France, fully in the knowledge France didn't win, because of the wording of a question. Nobody is really arguing a try wasn't scored, everyone knows it was, they are arguing about the use of the English language. That's not a serious sport or a serious competition. If I was Scotland I'd be seriously tempted to have one big go against England, then burn the tournament completely. Give Finn, Zander and the boys a bit of a rest, throw in a few youngsters and cap anyone they can find with a Scottish granny who looks remotely capable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden God Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Not a rugby fan at all but it’s clear as day that it’s a try. The whole clear and obvious thing is bullshit, a refs eyes in real time against a pile of bodies or a million cameras that can get slowed down? Trust the camera every time. I know dignity and being a gentleman etc is the done thing in rugby but they should be kicking up an enormous fuss, if that was Scotland in Germany this summer then you’d have every player, coach and pundit going mental about it and rightfully so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Sione points out the ball on the ground to the ref at the time too. I’m still fuming. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 15 minutes ago, GAD said: For me the tournament and even the sport has been badly damaged by what happened yesterday. I'm watching the game with my pals who are mostly football fans and they can't understand what's happened. It's clear the ball is on the ground, there is nowhere else it can be, yet people are genuinely arguing that despite this they were correct to ignore that and award the win to France, fully in the knowledge France didn't win, because of the wording of a question. Nobody is really arguing a try wasn't scored, everyone knows it was, they are arguing about the use of the English language. That's not a serious sport or a serious competition. If I was Scotland I'd be seriously tempted to have one big go against England, then burn the tournament completely. Give Finn, Zander and the boys a bit of a rest, throw in a few youngsters and cap anyone they can find with a Scottish granny who looks remotely capable. The problem is TMO. Like Joy Neville in the World Cup, the TMO made up a situation that was clearly not what happened. There’s not a person alive who saw things the same was as the TMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorOnopko Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Can't claim to be a rugby expert - like a lot of folk I only watch the 6N and WC and never the club game. But yesterday reminded me why I am totally scunnered with this Scotland team, and rugby in general. From a Scotland perspective, this is the most talented pool we have had in a generation - and somehow under Townsend we have achieved precisely f8ck all other than a few enjoyable one off wins. We should have pasted the Welsh by 40 last week and we won by a point. We should have kicked the points at the end of the 1st half yesterday then inevitably didn't score, and played a dismal kicking game all 2nd half which didn't work. We got the absolute minimum out of these two matches. I don't think Russell is a good (co-) captain, because last week the players weren't listening to him and this week he turned down vital points and ran the kicking show for the 2nd half which got us nowhere. The TMO fiasco at the end was (obviously) scandalous - the ref saying out loud he would overturn based on what had been said, then the TMO suddenly rowing back and stopping him - WTAF? It was almost as much a kick in the baws as Joubert in 2015 and I can't remember anything in the 6N or WC rugby that has happened inbetween these two decisions which was more outrageous. This year we've been denied a win, momentum and hope for the rest of the 6N and last time we would've been in a winnable WC semi against the Argies. The referees in rugby union have far, far too much influence over the outcome of a match - last week against Wales we got ragged, but did we deserve 14 pens in a row? A lot of penalties are obscure to say the least (in that a lot of cases, if they weren't called barely anyone would notice) - and the whole tedious scrum process also looks utterly pointless these days; retained for reasons of history and the sport's identity more than anything else. Overall, utter pish both from Scotland's perspective and for the sport in general - and yes, I am still seething! /rantover 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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