Savage Henry Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 The Israeli ambassador came across as a complete fruit loop on Channel 4 News just now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggy McJagface Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Jeff Venom said: How tf is it that difficult in 2023 to distinguish between: Criticism of Israel gov, particularly Netanyahu and his extreme cronies like Smotrich =/= anti-Semitism or anti-zionism. Support for Palestinians right to exist and it not be in a glorified prison in Gaza =/= pro-Hamas or pro-violence. Mon tae f**k. Israel and its supporters deliberately conflate the two in an attempt to deflect criticism of their governments actions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Trogdor said: Pretty sure someone was banned for antisemitism on this thread or the other thread. There was someone giving it ‘Jews control the media’ aye, but they were immediately called out by some of the most vocal critics of Israel on here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, oneteaminglasgow said: There was someone giving it ‘Jews control the media’ aye, but they were immediately called out by some of the most vocal critics of Israel on here. There must be two then as the one I'm referring to referenced the Nazis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Jeff Venom said: How tf is it that difficult in 2023 to distinguish between: Criticism of Israel gov, particularly Netanyahu and his extreme cronies like Smotrich =/= anti-Semitism or anti-zionism. Support for Palestinians right to exist and it not be in a glorified prison in Gaza =/= pro-Hamas or pro-violence. Mon tae f**k. This, the widely accepted IHRA definition and examples Quote Manifestations might include the targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity. However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic. Antisemitism frequently charges Jews with conspiring to harm humanity, and it is often used to blame Jews for “why things go wrong.” It is expressed in speech, writing, visual forms and action, and employs sinister stereotypes and negative character traits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, The Other Foot said: I’m wholeheartedly against the Israeli onslaught, but lads…be fair…it’s looking more and more like it was a Hamas rocket that hit the hospital by accident. Partly with you here, I've dialled back from definitely Israel to something doesn't add up here, I don't know why Israel are pushing fake video evidence surrounding it and a faked recording. It might only be a silly little website but few posts deleted or edited on twitter right when it happened too. Their other excuse of 'oh our bombs are much more barbaric than this' doesn't really wash either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 45 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: Baddiel really should know that the Israeli government and Jews are not the same thing. Baddiel's lack of self awareness with that one is rather hilarious. I have no doubt that if Baddiel lived in Israel he would be ripping the pish out the current Israeli government. As it is he's defending actions he simply wouldn't accept if the Tories were doing them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orfc Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, itzdrk said: However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic And is similar criticism applied to any other country on here? Where are the similar 100+ page threads about the Saudis actions in Yemen, the Iranians/Turks actions against the Kurds, etc etc? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: The Israeli ambassador came across as a complete fruit loop on Channel 4 News just now. The UK one? Aye, a complete swivel eyed loon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 This has put a right downer on that Palestinian chicken episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 26 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: The Israeli ambassador came across as a complete fruit loop on Channel 4 News just now. It would have been a surprise if she didn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 38 minutes ago, The Other Foot said: I’m wholeheartedly against the Israeli onslaught, but lads…be fair…it’s looking more and more like it was a Hamas rocket that hit the hospital by accident. Their rockets couldn't blow the skin off a rice pudding until that happened. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S7C Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Surprised to see Donathan actually posting in here. Usually he just negs and runs away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, orfc said: And is similar criticism applied to any other country on here? Where are the similar 100+ page threads about the Saudis actions in Yemen, the Iranians/Turks actions against the Kurds, etc etc? Start a thread for each conflict and we’ll all pile in m8. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Lofarl said: This has put a right downer on that Palestinian chicken episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm. Nonsense! That episode is an utter, utter classic and more like that would help the peace process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 30 minutes ago, orfc said: And is similar criticism applied to any other country on here? Where are the similar 100+ page threads about the Saudis actions in Yemen, the Iranians/Turks actions against the Kurds, etc etc? Fair point except Israel claims to be a Western style democracy aspiring to be just like us whereas these other countries don't give a shit what anyone thinks. Guess Israel doesn't care either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, RH33 said: You got Private Eye today too then?! I did! But I have not yet opened it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Let‘s look at the actual definition of Zionism. The Oxford dictionary defines Zionism as “a movement for (originally) the re-establishmentand (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel.” Now, let’s look at the demographics of the surrounding areas. Apart from Palestine, Israel borders four countries (Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Egypt) and in turn, these countries border another five countries between them (Turkey, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Libya and Sudan). All nine of these nations have Muslim majority populations. If the Jewish people shouldn’t stay in Israel, where on earth are they meant to go? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Donathan said: Let‘s look at the actual definition of Zionism. The Oxford dictionary defines Zionism as “a movement for (originally) the re-establishmentand (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel.” Now, let’s look at the demographics of the surrounding areas. Apart from Palestine, Israel borders four countries (Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Egypt) and in turn, these countries border another five countries between them (Turkey, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Libya and Sudan). All nine of these nations have Muslim majority populations. If the Jewish people shouldn’t stay in Israel, where on earth are they meant to go? Can you please quote a single person on here who is saying that ‘the Jewish people’ should be expelled from Israel? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Can you please quote a single person on here who is saying that ‘the Jewish people’ should be expelled from Israel? @Granny Dangerhas said that he is not a Zionist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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