Ewanandmoreagain Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Israel is going to partition Gaza. A flattened north and an even more " overpopulated " south 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTee Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 I've watched a wee bit of the news today. My summary. Hamas (still no clue who they are) definitely bombed a hospital in their own region. Definitely not Israel. Hamas terrorists (which appears to be a fair description) have been wandering around with laminated Al Qaeda (are they still a thing) instructions on how to make chemical weapons. Footage of buildings being destroyed, which looks like controlled explosions from the base. Doesn't look like a cruise missile for example, but I'm no expert. The explosion happens at the base and the building falls straight down. The UK providing 20 million of aid to Gaza, whilst simultaneously essentially promoting it's destruction. Human beings being utter arseholes. Not sure how they can sleep at night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JokerD Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 5 hours ago, Granny Danger said: And according to Sky 50,000 pregnant women 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHF-23 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 5 hours ago, GTee said: Hamas terrorists (which appears to be a fair description) have been wandering around with laminated Al Qaeda (are they still a thing) instructions on how to make chemical weapons. If you believe that Hamas terrorists were wandering around with booklets with "Al Qaeda" written on the front in English then I can only assume you button up the back. Why would you be carrying printed out PDFs on how to use Chemical Weapons rather than, say Chemical Weapons themselves. It's not Fallout 4, you're not going to craft a chemical bomb out of stuff you've looted in a house. It's the manifesto of the WTC bomber iirc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 The IDF really taking the Hannibal directive to an extreme here. Better for Israeli civilians to die in the midst of bombing and a ground invasion rather than being released and surviving, if the latter also means Palestinians get to survive too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 The Israelis releasing horrific footage of murders then saying "so you see, you can't compare us with them, look how grim this is" might be the most wretched bit of propaganda iv ever seen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 hours ago, GHF-23 said: If you believe that Hamas terrorists were wandering around with booklets with "Al Qaeda" written on the front in English then I can only assume you button up the back. Why would you be carrying printed out PDFs on how to use Chemical Weapons rather than, say Chemical Weapons themselves. It's not Fallout 4, you're not going to craft a chemical bomb out of stuff you've looted in a house. It's the manifesto of the WTC bomber iirc I suspect (though may be wrong) that the point being made you replied to is that this is how the conflict is being reported by the MSM in the UK. I dont think the OP was claiming these things had actually happened. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHF-23 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: I suspect (though may be wrong) that the point being made you replied to is that this is how the conflict is being reported by the MSM in the UK. I dont think the OP was claiming these things had actually happened. Could well be in which case I apologise. Dangers of posting at half 5 in the morning Edited October 24, 2023 by GHF-23 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lau03143 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 26 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: The Israelis releasing horrific footage of murders then saying "so you see, you can't compare us with them, look how grim this is" might be the most wretched bit of propaganda iv ever seen. It's strange piece of footage... rather odd that they were able to obtain footage from both the dashcam and body cams, unless they IDF was right on top of the attackers immediately after the attack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, lau03143 said: It's strange piece of footage... rather odd that they were able to obtain footage from both the dashcam and body cams, unless they IDF was right on top of the attackers immediately after the attack. Iv not seen any and don't want to. It's just that a state using something that vile, then making the point that as long as they're not making films of it, then an actual state bombing civilians to death is A-ok 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Palestinian casualties exceed 5,000 with 62 percent being women and children. Not a peep from our political ‘leaders’. There will be many more to follow. https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/10/1142687 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Maybe the IDF could turn on the electricity in Gaza for a little bit so they could show the families of dead Palestinian children the photos of dead Israeli children. I'd imagine that would win hearts and minds in Gaza no problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Palestinian casualties exceed 5,000 with 62 percent being women and children. Not a peep from our political ‘leaders’. There will be many more to follow. https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/10/1142687 Any rise in media or political questioning will be put to bed by "well look at this incident where one terrorist filmed himself doing terror". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 53 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Palestinian casualties exceed 5,000 with 62 percent being women and children. Not a peep from our political ‘leaders’. There will be many more to follow. https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/10/1142687 Yes but look at what "the other team" did first................... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Leith Green said: Yes but look at what "the other team" did first................... 'first' of course meaning 'October 7th 2023' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/23/pentagon-military-advisers-air-defense-israel-hamas-war-gaza US military advisers going in. One of them is a guy who was heavily involved in the US assault on the Iraqi city of Fallujah. As I recall, Fallujah was essentially razed to the ground. Also, the US has stated that now is not the time for a ceasefire. If it wasn't before, looks fairly obvious now that the US/Israel intention is to destroy much of Gaza, and make it uninhabitable. Still not a peep from our spineless political leaders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyellowbox Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, beefybake said: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/23/pentagon-military-advisers-air-defense-israel-hamas-war-gaza US military advisers going in. One of them is a guy who was heavily involved in the US assault on the Iraqi city of Fallujah. As I recall, Fallujah was essentially razed to the ground. Also, the US has stated that now is not the time for a ceasefire. If it wasn't before, looks fairly obvious now that the US/Israel intention is to destroy much of Gaza, and make it uninhabitable. Still not a peep from our spineless political leaders. This is the problem. We (as in the west) have such a short memory and attention span now, that some of the actions and events that happened in Iraq and Afghanistan are completely erased from our consciousness, whereas when you see a Brit or American doing x in a neighbouring country, that is the defining memory of that country. The proof is the reaction on middle England if you ask about Germans.... despite the 70+ years that have passed, a different generation and that short attention span of historical events, there is an inbuilt reaction. That anyone thinks a US military advisor that saw action in Iraq can be seen by the majority of the middle east as an not an unbiased collaborater is frankly mental. Our politicians and leaders in general need to be calm and measured here and look at the longer term picture in how to handle this crisis. Calm balanced reactions will get this sorted and putting aside prior feelings. Egypt are the example here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JokerD Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Just imagine what would be happening in Gaza now, if the US and others had urged restraint and called for humanitarian corridors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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