Theroadlesstravelled Posted Friday at 13:43 Share Posted Friday at 13:43 2 hours ago, ScotiaNostra said: Interesting read in the guardian https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/sep/13/israel-palestine-7-october-gaza-orna-guralnik Menopause eh? -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted Tuesday at 14:48 Share Posted Tuesday at 14:48 So presumably whoever supplies Hezbollah with their communication devices are in the pocket of the Israelis ? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/17/hundreds-of-hezbollah-members-hurt-in-lebanon-after-pagers-explode "Scores of members of the Lebanese armed group Hezbollah, including fighters and medics, were seriously wounded on Tuesday when the pagers they use to communicate exploded, a security source told Reuters. A Hezbollah official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the detonation of the pagers was the “biggest security breach” the group had been subjected to in nearly a year of war with Israel." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venti Posted Tuesday at 15:41 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:41 52 minutes ago, Florentine_Pogen said: So presumably whoever supplies Hezbollah with their communication devices are in the pocket of the Israelis ? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/17/hundreds-of-hezbollah-members-hurt-in-lebanon-after-pagers-explode "Scores of members of the Lebanese armed group Hezbollah, including fighters and medics, were seriously wounded on Tuesday when the pagers they use to communicate exploded, a security source told Reuters. A Hezbollah official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the detonation of the pagers was the “biggest security breach” the group had been subjected to in nearly a year of war with Israel." Has Q branch reported any stolen explosive pagers? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted Tuesday at 15:42 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:42 52 minutes ago, Florentine_Pogen said: So presumably whoever supplies Hezbollah with their communication devices are in the pocket of the Israelis ? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/17/hundreds-of-hezbollah-members-hurt-in-lebanon-after-pagers-explode "Scores of members of the Lebanese armed group Hezbollah, including fighters and medics, were seriously wounded on Tuesday when the pagers they use to communicate exploded, a security source told Reuters. A Hezbollah official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the detonation of the pagers was the “biggest security breach” the group had been subjected to in nearly a year of war with Israel." I wonder if they took out the extended warranty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted Tuesday at 15:43 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:43 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Venti said: Has Q branch reported any stolen explosive pagers? https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/sep/17/middle-east-crisis-live-netanyahu-expands-gaza-war-aims-blinken-heads-to-egypt#top-of-blog Eight killed and 2,750 wounded in pager blasts across Lebanon - health minister At least eight people were killed and 2,750 wounded after pager explosions across Lebanon, according to the country’s health minister Firass Abiad. Edited Tuesday at 15:52 by Florentine_Pogen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venti Posted Tuesday at 15:46 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:46 3 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I wonder if they took out the extended warranty. Would have cost them an arm & a leg. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nkomo-A-Gogo Posted Tuesday at 15:56 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:56 No love for the Israeli government here but you have to hand it to them there, that's top notch. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted Tuesday at 15:59 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:59 2 minutes ago, Nkomo-A-Gogo said: No love for the Israeli government here but you have to hand it to them there, that's top notch. Indiscriminate killing & injuring of kids is top notch ? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted Tuesday at 16:08 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:08 3 minutes ago, Nkomo-A-Gogo said: No love for the Israeli government here but you have to hand it to them there, that's top notch. Not really, no. They don't try to kill Hezbollah members when they're at work, they kill them at home and take out their families at the same time. 2,750 people wounded when they were targeting less than 100 people? Israel has been using theoretically more precise munitions in Lebanon than Gaza to avoid antagonising the USA too much. For example, they've use drones with facial recognition technology and flown them through the windows of the target's home. That contrasts with Gaza where they drop WW2-style dumb, heavy bombs on entire apartment blocks while targeting one person. The targeted stuff is expensive and time-consuming, and nobody is going to stop them from slaughtering Palestinian civilians. In any case most people with work for Hezbollah in Beirut aren't involved in their armed forces. They are the biggest providers of education, health and social services to the Muslim population in Lebanon, they're a state within a state. Many if not most of those targeted today are no more legitimate targets than Israeli civil servants. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted Tuesday at 16:09 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:09 "Hezbollah maintains its own communication network separate from the rest of Lebanon. Suspicions that Israel has managed to penetrate the group’s telecommunications have been held since October, as several Hezbollah commanders have been assassinated in targeted strikes. Israel has yet to comment on the attack. Yossi Melman, a co-author of Spies Against Armageddon and other books on Israeli intelligence, said: “This absolutely has all the hallmarks of a Mossad operation. Somebody has planted minor explosives or malware from inside the pagers. I understand they were recently supplied as well.” Melman said he understood that “a lot of people in Hezbollah carried these pagers, not just top echelon commanders”. They were used by the Lebanese group because they feared their mobile phones were being monitored by Israeli intelligence to surveil their communications and to pinpoint missile attacks. The exercise showed, he said, that “Mossad is able to penetrate and infiltrate Hezbollah time and time again” but he questioned whether there was any strategic gain to the co-ordinated explosions. “It won’t change the situation on the ground, and I don’t see any advance in it.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted Tuesday at 17:06 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:06 Pagers ffs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWL Posted Tuesday at 17:33 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:33 So Mossad can arrange an operation of this complexity and magnitude, but were unable to spot 1,500 Hezbollah fighters gathering on the border......? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted Tuesday at 18:47 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:47 (edited) The numbers of wounded seems to go up exponentially with every report. Dozens, hundreds then thousands. The injuries are quite bad because most of them carried them in their front pockets supposedly. eta Edited Tuesday at 18:52 by Silvio Tattiescone 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venti Posted Tuesday at 19:25 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:25 Must be unlucky if you have the pager in the inside breast pocket of a jacket. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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