Freedom Farter Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Biden now sending another $26B to Israel. "First as tragedy, then as farce" and all that. We're just watching oil being poured on this enormous fire of children's corpses over and over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 3 hours ago, Freedom Farter said: Biden now sending another $26B to Israel. "First as tragedy, then as farce" and all that. We're just watching oil being poured on this enormous fire of children's corpses over and over. There's only $14B in the recently passed aid bill. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, TxRover said: There's only $14B in the recently passed aid bill. BBC report $26B but regardless of the exact amount it should be $0. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, Freedom Farter said: BBC report $26B but regardless of the exact amount it should be $0. $26B is $14B for Israel, $9B for Gaza relief and $3B for U.S. operations in the area (construction of quay, airdrop operations and stuff like that) Still want $0B? You gotta understand stuff before you knee jerk on it...just saying. Edited April 21 by TxRover 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 6 minutes ago, TxRover said: $26B is $14B for Israel, $9B for Gaza relief and $3B for U.S. operations in the area (construction of quay, airdrop operations and stuff like that) Still want $0B? You gotta understand stuff before you knee jerk on it...just saying. Its an estimated $2B to Gaza not $9B: https://www.timesofisrael.com/house-approves-26-billion-in-aid-for-israel-and-gaza-under-major-spending-package/ Yes, $0 would have been preferable to $17B of military hardware and $2B towards humanitarian needs. Israel has used the weapons to abduct UNRWA workers and force false confessions from them. USA then used those false confessions to justify outlawing contributions to UNRWA, which is the UN agency embedded throughout Gaza. Now the World Food Programme instead has to hang about until this floating pier gets built from where they have to administer the aid (https://apnews.com/article/gaza-israel-aid-pier-us-military-e988256270fc0067d2f5524fd542a475). Israel uses the weapons to slaughter Gazans trying to collect the aid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flour_massacre). Israel uses the weapons to murder aid workers trying to distribute the aid, such as they did with the three British men earlier this month. The fundamental point is that the food aid is only needed in the first place because of the destruction caused by the military aid. Gazans are starving because missiles fired from drones and fighter jets have destroyed their society's infrastructure. This is Israeli military doctrine to do so (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine). If random idiots like me knew this was going to happen then you can be sure decision makers in Washington also knew yet they still chose to oversee and sponsor it all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 51 minutes ago, Freedom Farter said: Its an estimated $2B to Gaza not $9B: https://www.timesofisrael.com/house-approves-26-billion-in-aid-for-israel-and-gaza-under-major-spending-package/ Yes, $0 would have been preferable to $17B of military hardware and $2B towards humanitarian needs. Israel has used the weapons to abduct UNRWA workers and force false confessions from them. USA then used those false confessions to justify outlawing contributions to UNRWA, which is the UN agency embedded throughout Gaza. Now the World Food Programme instead has to hang about until this floating pier gets built from where they have to administer the aid (https://apnews.com/article/gaza-israel-aid-pier-us-military-e988256270fc0067d2f5524fd542a475). Israel uses the weapons to slaughter Gazans trying to collect the aid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flour_massacre). Israel uses the weapons to murder aid workers trying to distribute the aid, such as they did with the three British men earlier this month. The fundamental point is that the food aid is only needed in the first place because of the destruction caused by the military aid. Gazans are starving because missiles fired from drones and fighter jets have destroyed their society's infrastructure. This is Israeli military doctrine to do so (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine). If random idiots like me knew this was going to happen then you can be sure decision makers in Washington also knew yet they still chose to oversee and sponsor it all. Estimated $2B…they’re guessing, the White House has said otherwise. Just saying, read further before blasting, eh? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Minter of a post from the official Israeli account. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 4 hours ago, Zetterlund said: Minter of a post from the official Israeli account. "Hmm. Can't be that difficult to change a 'q' into a 'n'. Where is that dossier? Let's spruce it up." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 5 hours ago, Zetterlund said: Minter of a post from the official Israeli account. Every now and then you'll see an argument that's such risible bullshit that anyone repeating it seems suspicious by association. Like choosing to believe that Jews eat babies - very obviously untrue, so it tells you more about the person who repeats it than the people they're trying to attack. The Israeli government has really stepped up their production of these in recent months. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Fullerene said: "Hmm. Can't be that difficult to change a 'q' into a 'n'. Where is that dossier? Let's spruce it up." 5 minutes ago, BFTD said: Every now and then you'll see an argument that's such risible bullshit that anyone repeating it seems suspicious by association. Like choosing to believe that Jews eat babies - very obviously untrue, so it tells you more about the person who repeats it than the people they're trying to attack. The Israeli government has really stepped up their production of these in recent months. It's incredible they could actually think anyone would believe such juvenile horseshit nowadays. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 22 minutes ago, Zetterlund said: It's incredible they could actually think anyone would believe such juvenile horseshit nowadays. And yet people do 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 43 minutes ago, Zetterlund said: It's incredible they could actually think anyone would believe such juvenile horseshit nowadays. To be honest it is easier to believe than talking snakes and all that stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 57 minutes ago, Zetterlund said: It's incredible they could actually think anyone would believe such juvenile horseshit nowadays. Didn't the IDF state that Hamas were beheading babies without any actual evidence. It's still being used as a justifiable reason for the current slaughter and being quoted as fact. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Fucking anti-Semitic …err… Jews! https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/24/not-like-other-passovers-hundreds-of-jewish-demonstrators-arrested-after-new-york-protest-seder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Fucking anti-Semitic …err… Jews! https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/24/not-like-other-passovers-hundreds-of-jewish-demonstrators-arrested-after-new-york-protest-seder The U.S. is perhaps starting to realize, a wee bit, that anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism. Edited to add: However, the batshit Trump wing continues to post roaring lions and the Israeli flag or Trump facing down some evil creature in front of crossed U.S. and Israeli flags and fire. Edited April 24 by TxRover 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 On 24/04/2024 at 12:23, Granny Danger said: Fucking anti-Semitic …err… Jews! https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/24/not-like-other-passovers-hundreds-of-jewish-demonstrators-arrested-after-new-york-protest-seder I listened to Naomi Klein's speech, it was good. On 24/04/2024 at 12:44, TxRover said: The U.S. is perhaps starting to realize, a wee bit, that anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism. Edited to add: However, the batshit Trump wing continues to post roaring lions and the Israeli flag or Trump facing down some evil creature in front of crossed U.S. and Israeli flags and fire. MAGA types have also shown that their claimed commitment to free speech is a load of shite. In your neck of the woods, Abbott sent the police to arrest demonstrating university students. Even a Fox News journalist in attendance was arrested. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S7C Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 On 24/04/2024 at 12:23, Granny Danger said: Fucking anti-Semitic …err… Jews! https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/24/not-like-other-passovers-hundreds-of-jewish-demonstrators-arrested-after-new-york-protest-seder Why did the Zionist cross the road? Why are you questioning the Zionist's motives?? Are you some kind of antisemite?! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, S7C said: Why did the Zionist cross the road? To build an illegal settlement on the other side? 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Israeli National Security Minister Ben Gvir injured in a serious car crash. Let's all hope he pulls through eh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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