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11 minutes ago, Donathan said:

Genuinely very disappointing to see the blatant anti-semitism on this thread. 

Genuinely disappointed to see you playing ‘criticism of Israel is anti-semitism’ card.  However not in the least surprised.

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I may be simplifying things a wee bit too far but regardless or race, religion or creed, bombing a hospital of civilians is wrong.

The mass loss of civilian lives is wrong. 

This isn't about sides. It's about basic humanity. 

There are no winners in war.

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5 minutes ago, Donathan said:

Genuinely very disappointing to see the blatant anti-semitism on this thread. 

That's a strong claim, but we shouldn't ever confuse anti-Israeli Government sentiment with anti-Semitism.  In the same way that the USA, the UK and many other countries automatically default to a position of 'Israel, Right or Wrong', then we can't simply tag any criticism of that Government as anti-Semitic.

There is a large percentage of the Israeli population who strongly disagree with Netanyahu's suitability for office, never mind his policies, and I'd guess that few of them would describe themselves as anti-Semites.  Not that you'll see that widely reported in the UK media.

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8 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said:

That's a strong claim, but we shouldn't ever confuse anti-Israeli Government sentiment with anti-Semitism.  In the same way that the USA, the UK and many other countries automatically default to a position of 'Israel, Right or Wrong', then we can't simply tag any criticism of that Government as anti-Semitic.

There is a large percentage of the Israeli population who strongly disagree with Netanyahu's suitability for office, never mind his policies, and I'd guess that few of them would describe themselves as anti-Semites.  Not that you'll see that widely reported in the UK media.

The pro-Zionist lobby has been using the anti-Zionism = anti-Semitism lie for a long, long time.

 

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53 minutes ago, orfc said:

You can't say that mate. You know the rules on PLO & Bovril:

Hamas say something with no evidence: Obviously bang on

Israel say something with evidence: Obvious fabrication 

 

 

What’s the rule concerning blindly believing the views of Israel’s biggest ally and funder?

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Just now, Donathan said:

Ok let’s discuss this then. What do anti-Zionists actually propose to do with all the Jews? 

Well I’m anti-Zionist so I will talk for myself.  What would I do with ‘all the Jews’?  I wouldn’t do anything with ‘all the Jews’.  I’d be happy to accept that Israel continues to exist as a country and that a separate Palestinian state be created which would likely mean Israel having to give up some of its land.

 

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3 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said:

Baddiel really should know that the Israeli government and Jews are not the same thing.

 

 

 

Baddiel should also know that if he wants to make money, the PPV receipts for a boxing match where Jason Lee boots fifteen shades of f**k out him would dwarf his book sales. 

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