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First half was as poor as anything I've seen in a while, two shit teams cancelling each other out, thankfully the second half was better. Speaking to some Morton fans after the game who agreed with my summation that yesterdays Morton team is easily one of worst 'ton teams I've ever seen. They also said we looked a marked un-improvement from last 2 seasons Rovers teams.
Thought Stanton was excellent yesterday as he was getting stuck in and had his best display since last season. Hopefully Nolan will improve and develop a good understanding with O'Riordan who's young and raw but still our best centre back at present. Easton had his best game I've seen so far and there were pass marks for Dick, Connolly, Brown and Gullan.
Hopefully this will give Rovers confidence and we can go to NDP and get something, having said that I doubt Hamilton will be as poor as Morton were, the blootering the ball tac-tics made them play like an amateur outfit, when that lump Lithgow came on they officially looked like a pub team. Alan Lithgow is the fattest thing on two legs to grace Starks Park since Mark Yardley for Albion Rovers 18 years ago. What is it with Morton and fatties? Strapp also looks a bit hefty but he could be a size zero model in comparison to Lithgow, is AL trying for the Garry O'Connor at Cappielow look?
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2 minutes ago, steakngravy said:
Will the outsourced advertising not be a Hearts related company as there was a rumour that she has her fingers in that companies pie and was trying to get it up and running last season.
Dunno, it was back in May and June I heard that, although now I think about it I'm sure the term "Edinburgh based" rings a bell.
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1 hour ago, Always next quarter said:
Is there not a chance to use the Raith suite for a fans pub by handing it over to the 200 club and use the titan and current 200 club for hospitality?
Offer 3 levels of hospitality
200 club pie and a pint style
Existing lounges the ordinary meal and wine
Titan a more executive offering?
The whole purpose of a marketing team is to expand income. We could be better off having no hospitality and save the cost of the marketing folk.
I read back the thread and there is mention of the CEO being on the highest wage at the club. If true it's Simms money but it would be interesting to hear what added value the post has brought.
I briefly had a job in sales and the first task was cover your own cost to maintain your job.
Problem is we hear nothing and subsequently fill in the gaps with gossip, hearsay and I'm sure at time truths which are leaked on forums etc.
Very little positive news around and what appears is worrying through to wildly concerning.
Andy Mill offered to do something like that a few years ago and thankfully it was knocked back.
The 200 club have been kicked out of the main stand twice in the last 30 years, the same thing would just have happened again once someone wanted more hospitality. The pricing of hospitality isn't an issue as long as it's good value which currently I don't believe it is. People should be going to work on a Monday morning raving about what a good day they'd had there, to the best of my knowledge that doesn't happen often enough.
Regarding Saturday I heard on Friday they'd only sold 12 places but I'm not sure if that included the 4 that were raffle prizes from Davo's testimonial lunch.
Either way not selling too many on the 1st day at home against the league favourites was piss poor, even John Sim wasn't happy with them...apparently.
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21 hours ago, SirJimmyofNic said:
Is this another example of our CEO failing at her job or not putting too much effort into it because her hubby is no longer at the club
Nah, more likely just another example of the CEO stumbling blindly in the dark. Has anyone have any idea what RRFC are paying for a CEO per annum these days. I heard she's on more than we paid the team manager last season, shocking if true. I've also been told she is in now in charge of stadium advertising (which has been outsourced to an advertising firm) yet we still have about a dozen and a half empty boards trackside. Add in Hospitality and she's obviously well worth her wages what ever it is.
I know she was originally paid by SPP but was told that's no longer the case.
This years AGM could be fun.
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2 minutes ago, CALDERON said:
Indeed. Board members talking to fans about transfer targets and other sensitive matters over a few pints is a bit weird.
It certainly is, especially after so many of us telling them in January not to sign a rapist. But hey ho sometimes it happens.
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I had it in mind the 3 in question at the time were Scottish players who would come on loan later in the window if at all, I got the feeling from the Aberdeen interview that NR was referring to a potential signing. I could be wrong, I often am.
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8 minutes ago, Broken Algorithms said:
Niall said on a podcast with Aberdeen fans it was a Norwegian player but we couldn't get a work permit.
Could easily have been him.
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1 minute ago, grumswall said:
Who where the 3 Scotty?
You'll know mcglynn was offered a deal as well, just to answer sb.By the time JM was offered the deal it was far too late, he'd all but signed on the dotted line at TFS.
The 3 players were all loan deals, Jack Hamilton was allegedly one I think Hendry was supposedly another and I wasn't told the name of the 3rd (maybe it was Connell) or maybe I was excited by they thought of getting Hamilton and just missed it. What was stated though was that who ever we got wouldn't come until nearer the end of the window as most SPL teams were only just starting back and they were still assessing who would go where.
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24 minutes ago, CALDERON said:
Well unless you are a board member, I'll take that as hearsay, in lieu of providing any actual evidence or sources.
John McGlynn was exceptionally lucky to be offered any contract at all. I can't see any other manager getting offered one after the 2nd half of last season. I'm fact, he was really lucky not to have been binned before the end of the season.
After the way he wasted a shit tonne of money last season, I'm not sure throwing much more at getting him to stay was the wisest choice.
Obviously I'm not, but back in June a current board member told me that was the case, the man in question was there then and is still there now so that gives you a 33% chance of correctly guessing who it was. I was also told that McGlynn was within an inch of getting sacked after losing at home in April but it was decided to give him until after the cup final. They are a soft and sentimental Buch at heart it would appear.
Edited to add, In general I'm neither ITK or getting preferential treatment. As described the board member reached out to me, here's the 2nd line from the PM he sent me.
"If you think a meeting to discuss your concerns would be helpful please let me know and we will schedule it in."
We met Thursday 9th June in the Strathearn Hotel, it lasted 4 hours and I had 4 pints and a nip of Bowmore, hope that helps. I knew at that time Spencer would sign and that Ross Millen was signing on the Monday I said nothing to anyone, Spencer was announced the next day. Many things were discussed including talk of DG's imminent departure (and his destination) and the 3 strikers Murray was after.... I can safely say that now as none of it came to fruition.
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13 minutes ago, CALDERON said:
How do you know Mcglynn was let go?
Given that the board debated on getting rid of JM before the cup final, it's a fair bet he was never getting a new contract.
No real effort was made to retain him, the general consensus was that his going to Falkirk was an ideal conclusion that suited both parties.
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53 minutes ago, CALDERON said:
Much of that side are still here. 7 of those players were on the pitch at some point yesterday. Murray has had to come in to an unbalanced squad low on confidence, on a terrible run of form. He obviously hasn't got everything right, but it's going to take more than 2 league games for any manager to sort that. So a transition season isn't the worst thing in the world, its far more than "5th place last season, we must immediately do better"
It's becoming clear that there is a sizeable job needing done, and Murray has just come out of a job where he made incremental, slow, but assured progress in a methodical manner. Let's give him that chance, I can't think of any manager at our level who would come into this with instant results.
But please sign a striker, Ian.
A fair few of the squad is still here albeit that 4 are still in the treatment room and 5 or 6 are youths. Of those over the age of 21 and fit to play I reckon there are only 8 players still here and 2 of them are goalies. Of the squad that finished the season 10 (inc loanees) have gone, that's includes 8 of the 14 outfield players who made the 1st team pool for the last gave V Killie. Of the starting team that faced Killie only McDonald, Zanatta, Stanton and Connolly started yesterday.
Rebuilding is now a mammoth task but did it really need to be? Last seasons defence was suspect but did it need complete root and branch surgery? Tumilty was always going to go and Bene had seen his day too (IMO) but did we need to bin so many of them? I reckon we should have done more to keep Musonda and McKay. I heard McGlynn was going to bin Dave McKay anyway as he isn't thought to be physical enough (he's a colossus compared to Nolan) but I'd have kept him if we were losing 2 and eventually a 3rd other. Defence needed a tweak not what it got. The attack definitely needed additions yet the 1st 2 signings in the door after Millen were in our strongest area which is midfield.
Cards on the table despite his failings I wanted to retain McGlynn as I didn't think there was (other than Jack Ross) any better alternatives, in a similar vein I hope we stick with Murray and he gets it right (the sooner the better) as I'm certain there aren't any better options now than there was in May. Murray has to get it right, there's no other alternative.
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16 minutes ago, Rovers_Lad said:
Zzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!
Too many big words for you eh?
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18 minutes ago, Brashy's Boots said:
Some pretty big accusations there Scotty, without elaboration.
As for hospitality and adverts, you are aware of the current economic crisis aren't you? People are making decisions on how they spend their money. Spending it at the Rovers is probably not high up the list of priorities.
I can elaborate, although will understandably chose not to do so on a public forum at this time. I can say though I've personally have had meetings at SP where I have been told one thing only for the subject of the conversation not to happen and subsequently to find out that there was never a chance of those things happening. The person in the meeting then blatently denied that they'd said those things to me despite there actually being a club director in same meeting. You could add in the documented denial "don't worry Val, we will not be signing him" once again despite there being other people within earshot when that was said, again there was denial. Add in the number of times we've been told DG would be off the books "in 2 weeks/soon/by the start of the season"
I'm at the stage where if a Rovers director/employee told me it was raining outside, I'd still look out the window to check.
Re, hospitality.
Recession or not they should have been able to sell more than a dozen places for yesterdays game. This wasn't Cove or Morton in November, January of February. No attempt was even made to drop the prices to make it viable.
Community wise in some areas the club has come on leaps and bounds, actual football team and club commercially wise we have also made major steps.... just backwards.
Regards to this being a transition season, I don't get people already thinking they're happy (though the longer it goes we all might) to accept just avoiding relegation. Two years ago we finished 3rd, last year 5th. Surely you replace your manager to improve not get worse?
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1 hour ago, Surely No said:
I spoke to the Fans Director and the S.L.O. at Cove last week. They were both in the away end and not " booted and suited".
That is outrageous, other than Sim who has actually paid for a place on the board?
The Fan's rep has the same right's on the board as anyone else. Is this a case of disrespecting the FR because she's a woman? None of the previous ones were treated like that.
In fact if you think about it, if the other directors have no share holdings behind them then the FR actually has more rights than them. The CEO has a place at this table why? The CEO is a paid employee (I notice the CEO has a nice new Merc btw , must be on a good wage there) and as such they will do as they're told, to me that's out and out corruption or at the very least a conflict of interests. CEO needs to go, we have regressed since any of them came in but more in the last 12 months than even during Eric Drysdales tenure.
All in all? Just a fecking shambles of an operation
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4 hours ago, Enigma said:
As for the “banter” aspect to our club, look in the club office and boardroom, not at the football side. Couldn’t even sell out our hospitality for our first home game….
3 hours ago, Michael W said:This sort of thing quickly infests the rest of the operation.
Too late I fear!
There's blatant elements of out and out ineptitude and a history of systematic lying been going on since before the start of last season.
But if you can't fill hospitality on the opening home league game of the season against the title favourites then some very serious questions need asking, add in the numerous blank spaces in the track side advertising (19 I think) and it's not questions but P45's that need handing out.
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2 hours ago, Diamonds are Forever said:
A well written post.
I'm obviously speaking from the outside, but just looking at Raith last season I feel like people underestimate how tough a job Murray has. At first glance you see they finished 5th and therefore it would just take a small improvement to reach the play-offs. However Raith's league form in the 2nd half of last season was atrocious. From the second round of 18 fixtures they picked up 17 points. For comparison, Queen of the South picked up 16, Dunfermline 21. You effectively had a relegation side for the 2nd half of the season, and top league scorer had 8 goals. I don't know whether Raith over performed in the first 18 games or under performed in the second 18 games, but either way it's clear the side was lacking something. I know they won the Challenge Cup but Cups, particularly that one, aren't a great indicator of anything, as having 2 teams in dreadful form competing in that final illustrates.
I've no idea the cause of that decline in form (I'm sure the DG stuff did not help) but that's difficult to turn round, particularly with the well known issues with recruitment this year. As has been said I think with time Murray will turn things round, that being said the fact is very few clubs these days will give managers years to fix things so I doubt he'll get that luxury.
The facts clearly speak for themselves and you are quite correct in you assumptions but you missed a key issue. The team was obviously missing a goal threat up front but the main issue was more the fact that we let in far too many goals. Arbroath(+10), ICT(+9), Killie (+6) and Partick (+2) all out scored us some by as many as 10 but we leaked goals in comparison 17 more than Killie, 16 more than Arbroath and 10 and 4 more than ICT and Partick respectively. So the facts are that the defence and attacking areas both need work done, yes? Yet 48 hours before the 1st league game IM has signed no strikers and one suspect RB, but before he's seen his new charges play he's signed 2 midfielders, this being IMO an area we were strongest in.
There are jobber managers aplenty out there and I'm in the I hope IM isn't one of em camp. When McGlynn walked I knew the options were few and far between, Other than the never going to happen (Jack Ross) Murray was my preferred option but I do feel he is a downgrade on what we had just as most of the players who've come in the door are a downgrade on what we had last season.... and a good few of them were't good enough to start with.
I don't think as a club we are going in the right direction. I heard that certain board members are being shunned and that there is some real disharmony behind the scenes. David Goodwillie remains on the payroll and it is still having a negative impact and causing grief.
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1 hour ago, Brashy's Boots said:
This is a parody account isn't it?
Why because my opinion differs from you?
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Just now, Raithie said:
How would Andy Mill know when he's not on the board?
Good question. I haven't seen him for a few days. He wasn't at the game today at all. Have you got a theory on that?
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Just now, Been going too long said:
Definitely more positives than negatives today, deserved a point, thought both centre backs were good and easton definitely improved us when he came on, that said we need at least a goal and a point next week to give us a kick start
I'd like to agree, Dundee only slightly shaded the stats in all the positive places... but they still did and they won. I missed last week and people say this week was an improvement on last. Well last week must have been a truly awful watch.
Some of the stories I heard today about the running of the club and actions at board level IS alarming.
WTF is happening to our club??
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Two mediocre teams, Dundee being slightly the less pish of the them. So just to be clear, no complaints about the result from me.
If Ross had backheeled to Stanton, if the Dee keeper wasn't so good at his job, if the ref had awarded any of the stonewallers.... If my granny had baws etc.
Who was it that said last Saturday "suggesting the Morton game is a must win is lunacy" well Its getting damned close to it! Lose it and we are in the same boat as the Pars were last season.
This isn't a Rovers team on the pitch treading water, they're floundering and the same looks to be true of the board steering the club.
Think it's fairly safe to say RAITH ROVERS ARE GOING BACKWARDS!
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In Connor O'Riordan have we signed a modern day Kevin James?
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11 hours ago, Zen Archer (Raconteur) said:
Did we once turn down Jack Ross?
If so. I'd thought we'd have heard more about it tonight.
Didn't interview as well as GFL apparently
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I hope LV comes back and gets at least another couple of seasons.
Seems there are many ways to rupture the ACL, I did my trying a quick turn on a 5 aside pitch, A week after surgery I slipped on a tiled floor and stretched the repair, if I try to kick with my right the knee over extends and the joint opens up, most painful. My son did his as a result of being on the wrong end of a similar challenge to the one that ruined Ian Durant, Paul Gascoigne did his inflicting a similar challenge on Forrest's Gary Charles in the FA Cup final. Iirc Tom Lang's was as a result of an unlucky landing. LV has probably done a variation of some of the above.
Aged 22 Fabian Caballero tore his acl playing for Dundee in the Tayside Derby, interestingly he never had corrective surgery preferring to build up his hamstrings to increase joint stability. He played on for 14 years with thighs like tree trunks.
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45 minutes ago, RRFC2711 said:
Alas I remember it well ended up sitting next to some auld fart slavering on and on…..
From way oot West, Rosyth way by chance?
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