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There is no such thing as level, there will always be one player slightly further forward than the other. The offside law is the exact same whether there is VAR or not, the only difference is the level of precision to which a decision can be analysed.
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Fraser was in the last Euros squad and continued to be picked after that, so I think a lot of the "bad egg" stuff is overblown. He definitely seems to have attitude issues but I don't think they'd be to the extent that he'd be completely ruled out.
I would be astonished if Calvin Ramsay has even the tiniest chance of being involved, he can barely even get in matchday squads at English League 1 level. Likewise, I don't see any way he would possibly even consider Doig or Taylor as right wing-backs in this system, they have absolutely none of the requisite abilities to be able to play that role, both are basic one-footed left-backs. Taylor played a handful of times at right-back for Killie (not under Clarke) in his first season after breaking through, and maybe a couple of times in central midfield in Clarke's early games in charge, but has never played anywhere other than LB/LWB for club or country in the last 6 years. As far as I'm aware, Doig hasn't ever played any position other than LB/LWB in his career - I could possibly see a future for him in a Tierney-style centre-back role.
If we were using a makeshift RWB in an emergency situation I think it would be Ryan Jack or possibly even Stuart Armstrong.
I don't think we're anywhere near O'Donnell being in the squad though, his time has passed. If it's not Ralston it will be McCrorie, I can't see anyone else being in consideration at this stage. Johnston hasn't played nearly enough football to be thinking about.
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1 hour ago, JS_FFC said:
I read somewhere online last week that he’s expected to announce a “long list” in mid May. Putting two and two together, the final squad would need to be some time after that.
I saw this on the Sky Sports website (I think), but it looked like it was just a copy and paste job from the England squad information and not necessarily actually the case.0 -
3 hours ago, oneteaminglasgow said:
Aye, I vaguely recall their chairman was trying to get the playoffs scrapped again the season they actually went down too.
He was aye, that's why it's particularly brilliant to see them failing to get out of the Highland League yet again, even if it's not the same chairman any more.1 -
18 hours ago, MikeAFC94 said:
Thelin was identified and interviewed last season, we then picked Robson over him.
What was the point in paying that expensive German consultancy firm all that money then, if their big answer was to appoint a guy you already knew about and considered. Almost as though they saw Cormack coming a mile off.0 -
They haven't really actively avoided it, there's a not insignificant chance that it could be decided on that date.
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7 hours ago, 10menwent2mow said:
Wasn't sure where to put this so stuck it in here due to higher traffic.
Prompted by the Highland League thread and mention of some Buckie fans not wanting to go up due to becoming a small fish in a bigger pond.
My thought was that they would have a fear of being like Elgin, who have never been promoted or relegated since inception into the League set up meaning 24 years in the 4th tier.
Can any of our resident stattos tell me if this is the longest streak of a club being in the same tier that isn't the Premier Division/SPL/Premiership.
I can recall Albion Rovers and East Stirling being mainly bottom tier for a long time before being relegated.
This is a bit of a difficult question to answer since there were two major periods of reconstruction in Scottish football, first in 1975 to go from two divisions to three, and then in 1994 to go from three divisions to four.Some teams were in the old second tier (of two) for large periods without ever making the top flight, but that's quite different to being in the current second tier without going up or down.
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3 hours ago, welshbairn said:
The 10 club league experiment has brainwashed people into thinking that only promotion and demotion matters, league position outside that and beating your rivals is irrelevant.
Buckie's title win being partly down to beating a team 13-1 on aggregate in the final week of the season isn't really doing that argument very much good. That same team subsequently losing 11-0 on the final way on their way to conceding over 150 goals is also not a particularly good argument for this being a sensible league structure.1 -
He's had a good season on the whole, just had a couple of high profile stinkers recently. Which is sort of standard for him, 8/10 about 80% of the time, 2/10 the other 20%. Not ideal for a centre-back.
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Rangers have been awful but Hearts not taking advantage at all.
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If Turnbull had gone down south and been remotely decent at Cardiff he'd be right in this conversation, but he appears to have done nothing since he got there.
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Just now, 54_and_counting said:
What @RandomGuy.Is saying i think is that Robertson should have awarded the penalty but asked for a check on the free kick at the same time (would have happened anyway)
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of how VAR works. Referees are not allowed to do this.0 -
10 hours ago, Burnieman said:
So is it;
League Cup: EK and Bo'ness Utd
SPFL Trophy: EK, Bo'ness, Cumbernauld and Tranent (plus the B teams)
9 hours ago, Jambo'ness said:Not necessarily. It depends entirely on the old pals act. Cowdenbeath got in last year without merit. It is shameful that it isn't clear at a season's end.
Surely it's the Highland League's "turn" to get the extra team in the League Cup anyway? And that will work out nicely for the cartel since they can do their pals at Brechin a favour.1 -
1 minute ago, RandomGuy. said:
Again, they do this all the time and you, again, have repeatedly explained to me that they let play go on at offside situations without making any decision, knowing a review will take play once play stops.
They do make a decision in these offside situations, the flag either goes up or doesn't at the end of the play.0 -
Just now, RandomGuy. said:
I've been told repeatedly in this thread that the referee would be blow straight away if he thought it was a clear foul. If he didn't he thought it was inconclusive.
If he thought it was inconclusive why did he make that the stopping point for the VAR review and not allow the whole thing to be reviewed?
Him awarded the free kick on the pitch, for something he thought was inconclusive, made it the end point for any review.
Just because you've been told something in the thread doesn't make it true. It is not the referee's job to "create end points for VAR reviews", it is his job to make the decision he thinks is correct.The only reason the foul is the stopping point for the VAR review is because it was plausibly a foul. If he had given that decision and it actually turned out that there was no contact between the players or that Hoilett had just brushed against him, then VAR would have been able to review the penalty.
The only alternative here, and what would have happened pre-VAR, was that Robertson would give the foul straight away and Aberdeen wouldn't have had the chance to give a foul.
You keep claiming that Robertson could simply have made no decision and waited for the ball to go out, but there is no such thing as making no decision. If he had not awarded the free-kick, then his decision would have been that there wasn't a foul.
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21 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:
Because the first thing they check is the foul since he gave it as a free kick, and since it's inconclusive they have to stick with his decision as they can't say he was clearly wrong, so everything that happened after is void.
If he blows for the penalty, or even just a stoppage in play after the foul for a potential penalty, then he can review the whole play again on screen as the VAR wouldn't be able to tell him if it should be a free kick to Celtic or not.
You aren't making any sense here I'm afraid. The referee gives what he thinks is the right decision on the pitch, he can't make what he thinks is a wrong decision just so that he can go back and check his other decision on the screen.
All over pretty much every single other thread about VAR you've got people (wrongly) rattling on about how referees have abdicated responsibility making decisions and are happy to just let VAR do it for them, yet you seem to be arguing here that this is exactly what he should have done.0 -
19 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said:
Can't think of anyone winning a cup beating them both at Hampden. Somebody on here will know if it's happened.
There have only been 7 occasions of a club beating one in the semi and the other in the final, and only 4 of them came with both games at Hampden.
Hibs in the 1901/02 Scottish Cup beat Rangers in the semi and Celtic in the final. The games were at Ibrox and Celtic Park though - semis weren't at neutral venues in those days, and the final was supposed to be at Ibrox but had to be moved because of the first Ibrox disaster.St Mirren in the 1925/26 Scottish Cup beat Rangers in the semi and Celtic in the final. The semi was at Celtic Park and the final was at Hampden.
Killie in the 1928/29 Scottish Cup beat Celtic in the semi and Rangers in the final. The semi was at Ibrox and the final was at Hampden.
Hibs in the 1972/73 League Cup beat Rangers in the semi and Celtic in the final. Both were played at Hampden.
Aberdeen in the 1976/77 League Cup beat Rangers in the semi and Celtic in the final. Both were played at Hampden.
Aberdeen in the 1982/83 Scottish Cup beat Celtic in the semi and Rangers in the final. Both were played at Hampden.
Aberdeen in the 1989/90 League Cup beat Celtic in the semi and Rangers in the final. Both were played in Hampden.
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Just now, Molotov said:
Enjoy.
There is a stat in the media that says Hearts have never beaten the opposition at Hampden.
I assume by that they mean the new club The Rangers and not the old version that was liquidated.
They have never beaten any version of Rangers at Hampden.1 -
2 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:
It’s always a big ask to beat them both at hampden to win a cup (has it ever happened?) but both teams have vulnerabilities.
Celtic are almost ideologically poor at the back. They take no steps to cover for any deficiencies so at a time when their centre halves are pretty poor the opportunities are there. It’s then just a question of bravery for teams like ours. The players are there to hurt them, you just have to be brave in possession. So often that doesn’t happen.
I have to say I don’t particularly fancy hearts today but you never know. Much stranger things have happened.
Celtic's subs made them much worse, and came at terrible times. The only one that improved them was taking Yang off, and that would have been true even if they hadn't bothered to bring someone on for them.Ultimately at the end, Roos was utterly terrible in the shoot-out and Aberdeen hit several bad penalties, while Celtic, Hart aside, were pretty much spot on with theirs.
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2 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:
And yet again, I ask for an example of them doing this in the past. I've never once seen a VAR review for an aerial challenge, given as a foul, overturned, either in St Johnstone games or in the few Sportscenes I watch.
In any game not involving Celtic (or Rangers), the referee either blows for a foul straight away, or blows for the penalty and pulls it back for the foul after reviewing the play.
To me it's just another example of how things are refereed differently when those two are involved with things weighted towards them in the decision making.
Examples have literally been given earlier in this thread, but it's a bit of a needle in a haystack situation to try and find these things because they're rare and in most cases hardly memorable. People don't tend to go around with big lists of all the refereeing decisions ever made in their head.If the officials think a goal might be scored then they're supposed to hold off on giving the foul or offside decision.
I don't see how this weights things towards Celtic here. If he had followed your approach of not bothering to follow the proper guidance for these situations then he would have just given Celtic a free-kick straight away rather than allowing for the possibility of an Aberdeen penalty.
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Just now, RandomGuy. said:
And since it's unclear and subjective, they can't overturn his decision so the check ends there and the penalty is off the table.
They absolutely can and do overturn subjective decisions if they think a mistake has been made. In this particular incident they presumably didn't think there was enough evidence that the referee was wrong in his original decision of a foul. This is how VAR is supposed to be used, we should only see a referee being overruled when he makes a clearly bad decision.0 -
8 hours ago, 54_and_counting said:
Your last paragraph is correct, only issue is robertson didn't award the game changing event decision, what should have happened is
Robertson sees potential foul on johnston, but allows play to continue
Robertson sees vickers foul hoilett, awards penalty but indicates to VAR that johnston might have been foul (VAR will check back anyway as per its procedure)
Free kick is spotted after a VAR delay and robertson indicates celtic free kick
But he never once awarded the penalty
This is just simply wrong. The referee has to make a decision on the pitch and he shouldn't award a penalty if he doesn't think a penalty is the right decision.
Robertson sees the potential foul and believes it is a foul, but allows play to continue because there is a promising attack. After the challenge on Hoilett stops the attack, he then goes back and gives the original free-kick. That is his way of indicating to VAR that he thinks it is a foul.VAR can then check the full incident, since play was live throughout, and there is a potential penalty to check. They will first check the free-kick to see if they think the decision is correct, and if they believed Robertson's decision was wrong then they could then roll on to look at the penalty decision.
That is the correct procedure here.
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18 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said:
Surely the fact he’s playing in the MLS isn’t an excuse for Clarke and his staff not knowing what’s going on with his form ?
I'm talking about posters on here, it's Clarke's job to know so that's different.0 -
It wasn't even close to a foul on MacDonald, it was just shit defending and he knew it.
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They probably won't be because the new TV deal will kick in next season and Sky can pick more games per season. The 4 games per stadium deal imposed by the clubs in the current deal is the main reason those Edinburgh derbies weren't shown.