Jambo'ness

Dug out the old Rothmans book here and can provide the following: They have his name as M C Turnbull and his three league games were played on March 24, April 1 & April 8, all midweek fixtures. The two Saturdays in between, he didn't play, so maybe playing for his Junior team?

Have a 'close but no cigar' one here. Donald Ford joined Bo'ness United in January 1964 and played for an East of Scotland select against a Hearts XI in April, in a 3-1 defeat. He subsequently joined Hears in June 1964 and played for the Scotland Amateur team on 20/02/65, against Wales at Rhyl. He scored in the 1-1 draw. Of course he then went on to play for Scotland and was part of the World Cup Squad in West Germany in 1974.

Good to see someone change their mind after being presented with facts. I do agree that unless a licence is forthcoming, it would seem little point in switching. However, a time will come when applications may not be accepted. On that basis, the risk has to be taken. Nothing official regarding Bo'ness or Linlitgow has bee announced but it's commonly accepted that if one leaves so will the other. If that was to happen, it would leave an East SuperLeague with a distinct Tayside bias.

We have spent all season debating the Kelty move, without any general agreement being reached. A club leaving that has received funding and investment has not been seen as a threat to the 'junior' structure. Now we have Dalkeith. A minnow in junior terms, with all due respect. Their move will shake up quite a few committee meetings and it's now a case of who gets away from the blocks next. TheLad says he sees the juniors as a 'wasteland' in 10 years. My only argument with that is the timescale. Half it and you'd be more accurate. Change is already happening. To all fans, do you want your club to be left behind?

Not privy to the inner workings of the committee but I believe that it is going to be another year before it occurs. This weeks news regarding the funding for the ground being received by the Newtown Park Association may just advance things. I do hope a move is made sooner rather than later.

One small amendment in spelling. It should be Wodecki. He went on to play for Alloa Athletic

Dalkeith moving could be the spark that ignites a fire. Everybody expected if anyone was to move, it would be one of the SuperLeague sides. Nobody considered that a side outwith the top division would make the jump. Good luck to them and I hope it heralds more movement in the East, at any rate.

I can only really speak about the Spanish model. Its all a matter of opinion on whether it 'works'. No reserve side can reach La Liga, or play in the same division as their 'first' team and they cannot leapfrog them if fortunes differ. The two reserve sides currently in the Segunda, Barcelona & Seville, are both presently in relegation places, so there is an argument as to whether they bring much to the table in a playing sense. In Segunda B, there is a proliferation of reserve sides spread over the four groups, with mixed success. Its when you drop down to the Tercera it gets really messy. Split into 18 groups, you can see the sense of reserve sides making up the numbers in the Canarian group but you get other local mainland groups with clubs third teams included. I'm mainly concerned that if you open the door here, the gruesome twosome will take advantage, as they always do.

The thing with the Colts teams boils down to what worth does it bring? I'm old enough to remember when Hearts & Hibs had teams in the EOSL. I certainly cannot remember one player of note coming through that route on the Hearts side. When the introduction of Colts is mentioned, it's immediately tagged with the Old Firm being the naturals. Do we really want to infect another part of our game with the associated bile and hatred that would surely follow them about? So, it must come down to money for the big two, who certainly don't give a monkeys about the rest. Just don't think it would be a benefit to the game here.

You hope for change, yet you red dot 2 of my posts for being a little sceptical over your self-interest?

I would not believe you were that stupid but your lack of preparation reflects on just how serious you were in the first place.

Patches giving this post a red dot suggests I was hitting closer to home than he liked.

They have every right to be. The way the whole thing has been conducted is shambolic. From not contacting anyone to sending invitations to retired committee members. Doesn't give you a lot of hope that any meaningful discussions will take place, or is that the underlying plan?

Your idea is good in principle but there is one potential problem. That of balancing the playing side with developing the facilities. Kelty had to go down that route and ended in a relegation play-off! It would be great as long as no possible danger of relegation.

TJ wants to protect his position. Probably worried that if the juniors were integrated, the SFA would want to install a new director of operations. Like so many leaders, when it all boils down, it's a case of 'what's in it for me?'

I'm sure it'll be 'like snow off a dyke' to him.

He'll be getting snowed under with all these responses.

I certainly don't want my club doing anything stupid and becoming a 'victim', as you put it. However, equally, I don't want them sitting still with their hands over their peepers, singing lalalah whilst the world passes them by. I find it blizzard (sic) that there is so much fear being generated. If you don't want to reach a destination, don't get on the bus but be mindful that routes change all the time and at some point you may be without a service.

If the world at large is to be used as evidence, all it leads to is more corruption . Most clubs struggle to drum up committee members as it is, I'm not sure where all these 'professional' people would come from. hence the likelihood of corruption.

A report from a Government committee setting down suggestions on how to run a previously sectarian country with honest principles? Sorry, coffee hasn't kicked in yet so can't see the relevance.

I'm curious. Where is your evidence that this is the case?

How do you really judge that though? If you follow your Junior team, home and away, all season long then surely your 'alliance' is with the Junior side. I may be an enigma here but I spend my time and money following Bo'ness United, so for me to then proclaim a senior 'main' allegiance would make me feel like an imposter.

From my user name it's obvious where my loyalties USED to lie but supporting the BU's for 10 years has blown my senior loyalties away. I look for results but cannot consider myself a fan as I've only been to Tynecastle twice since 2010. When (not if) Bo'ness make the change to whatever part of the pyramid will be open to them, my undivided loyalties will be with them. The team you pay to watch are your team. End of. It's kind of similar to when I was younger and everyone had an 'English' team. Most only ever saw them on TV.

I take it you are not aware of The Newtown Park Association. It's no longer in the hands of the council.

Sorry to come to this late but I was on holiday. The Willie Pryde of Bo'ness had played for Bo'ness Cadora pre-war, then signed for the new United on demob. He moved to Southend United in July 1947. The Pryde that played for Newburgh was, I believe, Jim Pryde. He went on to play for Rangers.