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More similarities with Quebec when Yes pulled 3 points ahead with a week to go but still lost. Squeaky bum time.

She sounds dead kinky, I'd propose on the spot.

How does your canvassing process work? Do you try and give people a "hard sell" on doorsteps if they're undecided or do you simply give them leaflets etc. and let them make up their minds themselves? Do you think there's anything in arguments that people may say they're voting Yes on the doorstep but this is really just to stop being "pestered", as they may view it, by campaigners? Just asking because no one has been canvassing at my door (probably due to the fact that I live pretty much in the city centre) so I'm not really sure what you guys actually do.

Bearing in mind that Yes seems to have a much larger online presence than the No campaign, would it not follow that more Yes voters are likely to have signed up to answer polls than No voters? I'm not really sure how these things work - do they only ask people who registered with them before the campaign began?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clNmnK4MkCM

Karl Pilkington David Raven

There's a whole album of these kicking about for free somewhere if you google it . Better than both the original albums in my opinion.

Why does every male under the age of 20 in Dundee have long hair?

You'll see them if you click the "All" button where it says All / No replies on their pages.

From Twitter but I'm putting it here anyway. Tweeted by Rangers/Ayr United player Kyle McAusland along with the comment "Scary stuff". 150 retweets and counting.

Should've posted this one

Nice, I only heard of them a couple of weeks ago but that album's my favourite release this year so far. Can't believe there's not more hype about them; hardly any of their songs are even on Youtube...

http://georgecostanzaband.bandcamp.com/track/sweater-weather

Here's the full article, think only the preview has been posted in this thread. As mentioned it has since been taken off the Scotsman website and it'll be interesting to see if it appears in print tomorrow. Regan simply has to go. By STEPHEN HALLIDAY Published on Wednesday 4 July 2012 21:26 SCOTTISH Football Association chief executive Stewart Regan has issued a startling warning of "social unrest" in Scotland if newco Rangers are denied entry to the First Division of the Scottish Football League following the emphatic rejection today of their application to retain top-flight football at Ibrox. Regan's remarkable comment came as he insisted admission to the First Division is now the only viable option if Scottish football wishes to avoid what he described as a "slow, lingering death". The Scottish Premier League turned down Charles Green's bid to have Rangers' existing share in the organisation transferred to his newco for next season, with ten of the member clubs voting against the application. It is understood Green cast the only vote in favour, while Kilmarnock chairman Michael Johnston is believed to have abstained. The SPL will now await the outcome of an SFL meeting next week when that organisation's 30 clubs will vote on a proposal to accept newco Rangers into the First Division in the new season ahead of an amalgamation of the league governing bodies from 2013-14. There is considerable opposition and resistance to the plan among SFL clubs and their supporters with many believing Rangers should have to apply for entry to the Third Division in the wake of their spectacular financial collapse. But Regan bluntly asserted that Scottish football simply cannot afford to have Rangers outwith the top two tiers of the league structure, with his argument not confined to the commercial impact their absence would have. "Without Rangers, there is social unrest and a big problem for Scottish society," claimed Regan. "They have a huge fan base and to contemplate the situation where those fans don't have a team to support, where those fans are effectively left without a game to follow, I just think that could lead to all sorts of issues, all sorts of problems for the game. "Tribalism in football is really important. It is part of the game. People follow their clubs with pride, it is passed down from generation to generation. There are thousands of Rangers fans whose fathers and parents and grandfathers have been Rangers fans. You can't contemplate a situation without that and if Rangers weren't to exist that could have real dire consequences. "There is a lot of emotion around this subject because Rangers are a huge institution in Scottish football history and they are where they are. Their fans have been hurt, they don't know what's happening. There hasn't been a great deal of leadership at the club and there hasn't been a huge amount of communication from the football authorities. "The SPL have now decided that Rangers won't be coming back into the SPL. From our perspective it's important we set out the landscape because there is only one solution for the game now. "The only solution for the game now is that Rangers come into the Scottish Football League and they come into it in the First Division. If Rangers were to go anywhere other than the First Division, then there would something in the region of £15.7 million worth of losses to the game. "For the bigger clubs at the top of the league, that's half their annual distributions. For clubs at the bottom it is basically wiping out their entire distributions, for some of the smaller clubs it's a huge proportion of their annual turnover. "The same will be true for most clubs. Perhaps clubs could survive for a short period of time but it's not sustainable. Even if Rangers end up in the First Division, there is still going to be a £5 million loss of income to the SPL clubs. The game is not sustainable so there would be a slow lingering death for the game in Scotland. It would then trickle down to the SFL. From our perspective as the governing body and we cannot allow that to happen. "If we allowed that to happen, it would simply be a dereliction of duty. Therefore, this whole decision-making process has been one of the most challenging and complex decisions that I have ever been involved in in 27 years of business as sport. "Some clubs in the SFL are afraid of the implications of the decisions. There is the moral argument, the fear of a fans' backlash and there are financial implications to consider. But when we look at the alternative, it is not possible to think about it without thinking of the game withering on the vine. We cannot contemplate that and the message has to be that Division One for Rangers is the only show in town as far as the future of Scottish football is concerned." Regan admits the influence of television contracts, which are largely predicated on the presence of Celtic and Rangers in the Scottish game, are the biggest single factor in his determination to ensure the Ibrox club drop no lower than the First Division. "We have had dialogue with the broadcasters," he added, "and we understand what the various stakeholders from Sky television, ESPN, Sport Five and a number of the SPL's other commercial partners are likely to do in the event Rangers are not in either of the top two tiers. It's not pretty. That's why we cannot sit back and let that happen without trying to get all parties to accept this is the only solution which can keep the game afloat. "Without Old Firm games, the value drops, the overseas deals are almost exclusively about the Old Firm derby and that would go immediately. Then you look at the rest of the game and what it is worth. It is fair to say the broadcasters would live with a year without Rangers in the SPL, because it could be a fantastic story for them, which is why I think First Division rights will be an interest as people will want to see how this club is going to bounce back." Regan conceded, however, that there can be no guarantee a financially weakened Rangers will climb back to the top flight at the first attempt. "If Rangers don't get promoted, then the game has got another year to suffer with the financial consequences that brings," he said. "I can't predict what will happen, because Rangers at the moment are a weakened team because of everything that has gone on. "They are a newco at the moment, they have got very few players on their books. They are going to be entering the SFL in whatever division with a weakened team and I don't think it's by any means certain they are going to come back in the way they or their fans might like them to recover. "It's going to be a slow recovery to get back to the football fitness they have shown in the past. So we can't look into the future and say 'what if they don't operate in a certain way?'. We can only look at building the foundations, to change the game for the better and provide an infrastructure that can bring financial certainty to the other 41 clubs." Regan confirmed that sanctions will apply to newco Rangers in the First Division and also made it clear the formation of an SPL2 will be pursued in order to accommodate the Ibrox club if they are rejected by the SFL next week. "The SFA have to transfer Rangers' membership from oldco to newco," he said. "That can be done with any conditions attached to it that the SFA board deem fit. We would expect a newco to carry some of the sanctions which would have related to the club had it still been in the previous incarnation. The membership cannot be transferred on financial grounds alone. It has to have a degree of sporting integrity and that means sporting sanctions."

Was the new stuff any good? They are doing a pre-sale for their gigs in October tomorrow at 9am. You have to be signed up to their mailing list to get a link though, if anyone could post one that would be much appreciated!

ICT statement: "It is never good to see a Scottish club going into liquidation and it is a pity that Rangers have come to such a position," said Inverness chairman Kenny Cameron. "As to what happens now at SPL level, as far as our own club is concerned, this is a time to consult and to take stock. "In the first instance we will sit down as a board and consider what the various potential outcomes are and how the different scenarios may play out. "Following that, we will be consulting with our fans through our Supporters Trust, as we have done previously on many occasions. "I would expect the SPL to call a meeting of all the clubs very shortly to appraise us of the current position. "At our last all club meeting we were virtually assured by the administrators that liquidation was not on their radar following discussions with the leading creditors, but as we now know this was not the case. "This is not a time for snap judgments or rushed quotes on the issue. We will consider our position and listen to our supporters once the picture becomes clearer. "Any speculation by certain parties as to how Caley Thistle may or may not vote on a NEWCO is purely that and we find it strange that some seem to know how the club would vote under certain circumstances. They must have a crystal ball."

The main issue is the CVA imo. If that isn't approved, it's curtains.(for the oldco at least)

It wasn't a deferral, it was a cut.

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/103257-former-rangers-director-of-football-believes-club-have-been-punished-enough/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Gordon Smith's latest offering He said: “I don’t see why in terms of the club being punished going forward because maybe mistakes have been made by individuals. “Whether it was accidental or deliberate these are people that have done these things and I know a lot of people would like to see the club punished but at the end of the day I think Scottish football needs a good, strong Rangers and Celtic. “I’d like to see every team get all the help they can get when they are in financial trouble. There aren't enough facepalms in the world