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I have no idea what is going on anymore with Rangers. Not a clue.

I now have a few aggressive "Independent Herbalife Distributors" on my friends list and their constant marketing is wearing a bit thin. I don't care if you lost 3 stone in a month - your product is expensive, disgusting and will stop working as soon as you stop using it, resulting in you ballooning up again. Have a salad.

What this week has shown us is that Rangers fans simply want the BBC and all other news outlets to report in a fair and impartial manner. Unless it shows Rangers in a bad light, in which case it's biased, even if 100% accurate.

Which clubs do you really not like and for what reasons? Genuinely interested btw.

Do you honestly see other clubs as a "shower of shite?"

Apparently a 2-1 victory = "scudded" these days in Govan.

Aye, in your favour!

I read a couple of articles recently which said Ison wasn't going to be anywhere near as bright as first thought, which would be very disappointing.

Who is Craig Mather? Who was he brought in by and whose side is he on?

The reason the mainstream media won't write anything about it is because they are scared of losing readers. Rangers fans are now adept at taking offence at absolutely anything and calling for boycotts as a result. Even allegations about the authenticity/intentions of those currently in charge of the club are dismissed as being anti-Rangers, despite serving as warnings as to what the club and it's fans can expect.

Short of asking a couple of old biddies, that's exactly who you'd get to do it.

Most Rangers fans don't pay Hagger... CF's Twitterings that much attention, outsmarted and made to look foolish by Mark Dingwall ..... Yes but these are the same Rangers fans who hailed Green as the Messiah when everyone told them otherwise and believe the SFA is biased against them despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. They don't listen to reason. Dingwall, much like Chris Graham is little more than a blithering, frothing at the mouth blinkered cretin, yet as history has shown, all someone needs to say is WATP or suggest an anti-Rangers conspiracy and the Rangers supporters will eat out their hand.

The Rangers support are angels to a man.

Green & Co Must Go. We Want Our Club Back. Unlucky guys, I'm afraid you're stuck with an imposter.

It's difficult to get Rangers fans to admit to anything - for example you'll never hear a Rangers fan admit that a large section of their support was a disgrace in Manchester, or that they cheated by withholding tax from HMRC or that the vast majority of their support are bigots, drawn to the club due to its sectarian traditions (and the remainder are just as bad for ignoring or denying it). It's all deflect, ignore, excuse. Other people would have been embarrassed beyond measure, but not you guys. Instead we had even greater choruses of WATP and No Surrender and obsessed, we had McCoist demanding to know who was on the discliplinary panel despite Rangers having a representative at the meeting which led directly to threats against the QC chairing the panel - yet no journalist has ever asked him why he made that inflammatory statement. We had accusations that the SFA was corrupt and biased against Rangers, despite that organisation doing absolutely everything they could to insert the new Rangers at the highest possible level in the league structure and then allowing you to play trialists in the first match of last season contrary to their own rules. We had people refusing to listen when everyone else pointed out that Charles Green may not be the knight in shining armour you took him for, and now look what's happened! So what chance does anyone have of convincing you that that football club founded in 1872, and later became a PLC, a PLC which was later liquidated, is now defrunct and a new one stands in their place? The very nature of a Rangers fan is to deny any failings and pretend that you're whiter than white, contrary to all the evidence. The behaviour of Rangers and their fans throughout this whole saga has been disgraceful. You deserve everything you get.

Where do Ticketus come into it?

Being hated by fans of other clubs is as important as having a team to support? What a sad, strange statement to make.

How did you come to this conclusion?

I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that all the talk was focused on how Rangers would be inserted into the league rather than "well here's a new club, let's see what other clubs are interested and then take a vote." I realise that then we'll come to a disagreement about the new club/old club argument, but back when this happened it seemed to be the general consensus that a newco = a new club (as per statements from Charles Green ("we need a CVA to preserve that history") and most of the commentary at the time). It seemed to be after the CVA failed that the continuation of history argument developed. Also, there was talk about having to have 3 years accounts and so forth which Sevco/Rangers didn't have. It seemed a total fudge at the time and I think that's why there was so much talk of other clubs That was my recollection anyway, although my memory is somewhat dodgy these days. Perhaps someone more reliable can correct me!

I still don't get the expansion into nothing theory. If space didn't exist before the Big Bang then what did?

There was no vote because no other clubs were given the option to apply. Instead, the authorities attempted to shoehorn Rangers into the league structure as high as possible, only failing when the fans of every other club protested. That was part of the reason I became confused as to why many Rangers fans insisted that people were kicking them while they were down and that the SFA/SPL were biased against them. Those organisations did everything they could to insert Rangers as high as they could. I strongly suspect that if St Johnstone or Kilmarnock or St Mirren went the same way, there would be no such attempts by the SFA to have any subsequent newcos leapfrog other clubs, simply because the money these clubs bring in is significantly less than Rangers. That's where the sporting integrity issue came into play. It simply wasn't right to have a newco Rangers carry on in the SPL, or even start in SFL1 as if nothing had happened, the same way I would be against it if/when the same thing happened to Kilmarnock. I think some of the Rangers fans on P&B have acknowledged this. Clubs shouldn't be given preferential treatment because they are more financially viable to their league authorities, despite what Craig Burley and Gordon Strachan say. Try telling a Stirling Albion fan that his club is less important to him than Rangers is to an Ibrox regular. There are reasons, some less than wholesome, why Celtic and Rangers are many times bigger that any other club in Scotland. Other clubs shouldn't be treated any less favourably simply because their fanbase has been plundered by the Glasgow duo. There should have been an application process, open to any clubs wishing to join SFL3. Rangers would have probably still won, but at least the chance would have been there for others, should they have wished. Football is based on competition. There will always be an imbalance but the authorities have a duty to ensure the playing field is as level as possible. I think they failed on this occasion.

So anyway, if the shares keep lowering in price, what happens next?

The big question here is whether we want an independent Scotland or not, but an equally important question should be whether the rest of us want Northern Ireland to remain part of the UK. Why shouldn't we have a say on this as well?

They all need to die.

Rangers were liquidated. The SPL clubs were asked/threatened to admit a new club straight into the league, bypassing the other 30 senior clubs in the country without them having kicked a ball. Hearts are in administration. They have not been liquidated and so the question over whether a new Hearts should be admitted straight into the Premier League has not been raised. Do you seriously not understand the difference?