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  1. 2 minutes ago, gaz5 said:

    Obviously not one of the "bigger" clubs, but at Dunipace last season our numbers were as follows:

    - 15 separate under 20's in competitive first team squads
    - 9 of those made their senior debut in those games
    - 7 of those started one or more games
    - 2 started 5 games or more
    - 38 appearances in the first team by under 20's players in total, most of those starts
    - 3 players promoted to senior side for next season

    Given it was our first year running a 20's side, we're delighted with those numbers and the success of the team.

    We want to regularly develop players into our first team and beyond, it's very much the model we are aiming at.

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    Thanks for the reply Gaz5 - that's pretty amazing and sounds like an excellent planned pathway and successful execution.

    I suppose my concern looking at the likes of Bonnyrigg is that most of our players have come through top sides academies before dropping down the leagues. When the SPFL under 20s sides empty out 10 players a season, they're going to filter down and are going to be higher quality perhaps than the lowland league under 20s. I wondered if clubs would review their under 20s in years to come as a means to provide extra squad numbers when injuries and suspensions kick in, but with little progression.

    The dunipace example seems to contradict this.

  2. My maths teacher never taught me much, but he did teach me that in a cup competion, working out the number of games is easy because every team loses apart from the winners.

    So if you have 8 teams you have 7 games (Final, semi finals, and quarter finals)

    If you have 128 teams you have 127 games (Final, semi finals, quarter finals, last 16, last 32, last 64, last 128)

    The point being, however many teams you have the number of games is one less. If its 91 teams then its 90 games. If its 90 teams its 89 games.

    I appreciate there's a bit of messing about with the Scottish to get certain numbers in certain rounds, but essentially its really straight forward (although I wonder if the SFA realize that)

  3. 1 hour ago, Footballfirst said:

    It's the SFA AGM today, so it could also be a seminal day for Bonnyrigg.  The previously announced six successful licence applicants should have their membership formally approved.

    What the nature of that membership will be, full or associate, remains to be seen.

    Oh and there is also the promotion of Rod Petrie, further beyond his level of incompetence, when he  takes over from Alan McRae as el presidente.

    At least one of the six has their full membership certificate dated from today.

  4. 8 hours ago, Spyro said:

    Aye auld Kilpatrick didn’t miss! Sadly no long with us :( My auntie got talking to Arnie Layden recently though, great school! Although, I was hopeless at football so spend most my time chasing the egg at Lasswade!

    Luckily the belt was outlawed before I started or I would’ve been on the wrong end of a few myself!

    Tbh I can’t remember much if the games we went to, apart from standing behind the goals getting the bants with the keepers. The guys at the clubhouse were always brilliant which was why we kept going there instead of Rose

    I had both of them.

  5. 3 hours ago, newcastle broon said:

    Whilst Bonnyrigg should be in the LL (no dispute there) do you think taking legal action and getting politicians involved will be the way to go  ? 

    At the end of the day they're fighting wi an organisation that's been on the go for well over 100 years and I would imagine Bonnyrigg want to make friends no enemies at this early stage of their new footballing pathway ? 

    Whether rightly or wrongly challenging the SFA,should they really be banging doors doon at hq ,if for one more season at least they were to stay where they finished last season  ? 

    Its absolutely ridiculous the SFA let them get that far wi the play offs before declining them promotion.

    I suspect they don’t have to take legal action as such

  6. I think the sfa/ll are likely to go for the path of least resistance so I suspect WW are safe and Bonnyrigg shafted.

    unless Bonnyrigg have let the sfa know they will act on an adverse decision on terms that they will likely succeed. 

    I think this sorry debacle highlights that as far as the sfa is concerned, the more things change, the more things stay the same.

  7. 26 minutes ago, Ginaro said:

    Suppose the LL have two options, either confirm WW at the AGM or announce WW/Bonnyrigg will swap if the latter gets their licence at the June SFA board meeting or AGM. Waiting another two weeks probably won't hurt anyone, given the fixtures didn't get announced last year until 25th June (10 days after the SPFL) - presumably they'll need to wait until SPFL fixtures are announced on 21st June due to groundsharing?

    I can’t see WW wearing that - why should they?

  8. 2 hours ago, pipedreamer said:

    Correct, he was the referee featured on “A View From The Terrace” on BBC Scotland on Friday night for sending Dick Campbell to the stand in a top of the table league 1 clash. He done Stirling Uni v Kelty Hearts and any shout in his direction he was desperate for a confrontation and brandishing cards.

    He let a couple of tackles go that should have been punished, but I thought he was generally okay. It was a stonewall second yellow for EK - he gave the free kick - and that was pretty weak. He only played a couple of minutes of injury time, when there should have been at least 4 - but I think that was just to stop any more trouble that he had probably caused with the two reds.

    Looking at the highlights - it was a pretty stonewall penalty under the laws/guidelines, and i can understand why the players would be frustrated - the key decisions going the wrong way by rank bad refereeing.

  9. Dean denies swearing or saying much to the ref - I thought at the time it was a straight red but maybe was a second yellow.

    I wonder if rose gave a reputation for indiscipline with referees in big games - because they weren’t indisciplined by any manner of means and the 2 reds at the end were inexplicable - especially after the ref bottled the East Kilbride sending off - I thought his dance saved him. 

  10. 5 hours ago, Golum said:

    Yes i noted that which is bizarre at this stage  , but its all quiet from the Lowland League site !!!

    Whether its correct or not i think for the good of all just publish it Officially and move on 

    My only conclusion is that a legal intervention has been made by Bonnyrigg and the LL are sizing up their options based on the Legal aspects involved or 

    It could just be they just are not interested and will just publish the LL fixtures with the team in there be it WW/or Bonnyrigg  ?

     

     

    I think it could be that Whitehill and Bonnyrigg both have winnable cases so the league could be 17 teams.

    eos isn’t such a big deal because a team would just shift up - but you’d have to redraw the fixtures for 17 teams instead of 16.

    berwick have fair thrown a spanner in the works.

  11. I think Maxwell is a dead man walking after that - he’s going to get ripped by the members who have some power.

    petrie just wants his job, and the duplicitous fecker will do and say anything to get it.

    shades of the Jorge cadete affair. I hope the result is the same.

  12. 2 hours ago, db11 said:

    I dont have beef with the clubs, i am delighted that 3 will be in scottish cup next year, point bs and auldheid are making is it puts these clubs at a whopping advantage.

    Likewise - the speculate to accumulate requirement has me baffled. I feel the sfa probably don’t understand who funds the teams.

    i thought I’d said it but I’m delighted with the clubs that have licences - and I think the pyramid is great and all the new clubs bring something to the sfa. Hopefully a template for all clubs in the juniors to look to - but the sfa have made an awful mess of it for reasons that really aren’t clear. I’m sounding like a broken record so I’ll bow out now.

  13. So clubs who want promotion to tier 5, maybe on gate income of £1000 every other week have to subsidise a £50k capital investment before they can get promotion?

    thats exactly the kind of thinking that got Scottish football into the mess it’s in.

    all very well these clubs that have grounds and floodlights bought and paid for by the councils. What about the clubs that are self sufficient?????

  14. 14 hours ago, Gimme said:

    Not 100% sure whether you're trolling or just don't know.

    Bonnyrigg submitted an application for derogation in respect of the floodlights. The clubs were then strung along by the SFA who refused to grant any licenses or give any indication of when decisions might be made. All of the clubs hands were tied, as they had been all season, by the intransigence of the sports governing body.

    Indeed the top 2 essentially stood in front of the gathered EoS delegates at Easter Road and claimed they had no idea when decisions would be made when the cynic in me suggests they know fine well what was happening.

    The SFA probably hoped that either Broxburn or Penicuik would win the play off to avoid this situation (or more likely couldn't care less and hoped the clubs would just accept what they said).

    It walks, talks and acts like a troll, chances are.....

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