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He'd gone back down south again but could be a cracking move if it was true. Obvs hope Byrne isn't that bad but if he is out for a while we'll need someone in. My thoughts were we'd bring Robertson back from Cove myself

Don't think so mate, I've not heard anything about it anyway...

I went looking for the article and found this instead. Jakubiak is likely to be out until the new year after getting surgery on his shoulder https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/dundee-fc/2658453/dundees-alex-jakubiak-facing-another-lengthy-spell-on-the-sidelines-after-undergoing-surgery/

Both back training along with Mullen too from what was in the courier anyway, unless you've heard hints of something different?

Swift google says she's Davie Irons daughter and a BBC sport and entertainment presenter

Here's the bbc article from a while back, its proposed to go alongside the ice arena next to camperdown park https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-40977364

Like you say Ludo, I suspect Covid will have slowed things down again but it definitely did sound positive that they were going ahead. The lack of updates might make folks worry (myself included) but re reading that yesterday, Nelms said we'd get another update once the finances were in place and they were ready to start...

Last story that came out was Nelms saying they had appointed a project manager and almost had all the money together to get started. Pretty sure the road issues have been sorted out and as far as I know the design has been through planning and building standards.

As rarely as the fat lad stuffs his face full of pies

Anyones guess at the moment, website says he's ill, rumour mill says he's told McPake to gtf coz he's not getting played

If you didn't get it sorted hes goal isn't too bad tonight - games been pretty pish tho http://www.hesgoal.com/news/87497/Dundee_FC_vs_St_Johnstone.html

So much to enjoy in one small clip...

He's getting over covid isn't he? No idea for certain but that was my assumption anyway

More likely he sees what's left of your team and gives up on the deal tbh

Yeah he's taking the piss Ludo, the guy he's on about still hasn't actually signed yet, thanks to them not getting international clearance for about a month

450k fee potentially rising to 1m with add ons according to the BBC for Shankland https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58156602

You Labour types do like a bit of fire raising tbf...

Hey I don't care, your fellow DAB is the one thats on a red dotting crusade. If thats what it takes to make up for his frustration at your board or whatever other short coming he's got in his life then he can knock himself out

Pmsl, awwh thanks Szammo - glad to see the truth bothers you so much you've got your red dotting finger out for me too, I'm touched Eta - This one too, you really need to get a better hobby. If you can't handle a bit of discourse and discussion with differing opinions maybe a football forum isnt the place for you.

I suspect that may well be the case but its inclusion suggests they either believe they would be able to retrieve the funds in full and with interest or at the very least would hold out for the highest possible amount in the event of a club going into administration. I guess we will only find out should one of the clubs that have taken out a loan go into administration. Unless one of the other clubs has significant unreported financial problems the two most likely candidates to test that are yourselves and 'the Rangers'.

That is the wording from the article. I would question how practical it would be to try and retrieve 2.8m from an insolvent club or company but I would hope the Govt and its legal advisors have made sure securities are written into any loan contract to ensure they wouldn't merely be a creditor like any other in an administration case.

The bit you seem to be glossing over is that on top of the 7m+ debts you already have to Ogren and others you now have an additional 2.8m debt to repay too While that may be interest free it still needs repaid each month for the next 21 years. Given your club can't manage to make ends meet as it is, surely any additional repayments will only make things worse? Someone overspending on their wages each month might be ecstatic at the idea of a short term fix of an interest free loan to pay the mortgage and electricity bill, but if they keep spunking their wages on shite and don't address the problem, all that interest free loan will do is hasten the arrival of the bailiffs to take the wide-screen TV off the wall and evict them out onto the street.

The only problem with your answer is that that goes against the rules of the loan system. The 2.8m you've taken out is on top of any existing debt and while it might remove the need to take out any further loans (for a while given the way Utd are spending money) it is still additional debt. "The borrowing rules state the loans can not be used to pay off existing commercial or director loans and bans most dividend payments" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58104430 The other bit you might want to take notice of is "in the event of any club with a loan going into administration, the unpaid money is expected to be paid back with interest."

If by pork crackling you mean an entire roast pig or three then possibly

Oooft easy Johnny, we have to have a vetting process - its very charitable of you to offer but we can't just be letting any old dayglo dross in, we do have standards. Thank you