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4 minutes ago, ayrmad said:
We have one of the larger population bases in Scotland, the fact that we can't sustain a club at a level suitable for that population has nothing to do with anything other than how this club has been run for the last 30 or 40 years.
That doesn't detract from the fact that if you take in a tenner and spend a tenner or less then you ain't ever going out the game.
Bollocks.
We are based on the fringes in one of the most over provided areas in the county in footballing terms.
Within less than an hours drive there are 6 clubs who play in the league above us and 4 of them have done so for about 30 years (forget sevco’s trouble years they are an exception). There is a massive number of fans from these clubs who live in Ayr and the immediate area.
We probably have a larger fan based than Hamilton to be fair and that’s reflected in their shite crowds but they are in a position not too dissimilar with Motherwell closer to us than Killie is and about 30mins to Glasgow.
Ayr itself is surrounded by huge pockets of towns and areas that support a particular club. Drongan, Patna and all the ex mining towns etc have huge Rangers supports mainly due the the love of all things loyalist.
The fact Ayr has been a Tory town for most of my life tells you that the people of Ayr on a whole have questionable taste and gives some insight as to where their allegiances lie.
People no longer naturally support their local club and people move around a hell of a lot for work etc so there are loads of folk around Ayrshire who would never go along to Somerset.
To say that the dwindling support is purely down to the way the club has been run for 30 years is just fucking thick.
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17 minutes ago, ayrmad said:
Can folk stop posting shite like this please, it is the biggest load of nonsense, there are clubs with far smaller turnovers than ours who survive comfortably by living within their means.
As for Lachlan, I've had my say plenty of times in the past, he has put cash in that he didn't need to, he's refused to sell to any old chancer, he's made quite a few mistakes, some of which have caused him to put in large chunks of cash, that's not my fault as an Ayr fan, that's his fault for listening to the wrong people when he was learning what it meant to run a Scottish football club, fantasy crowd expectations spring to mind.
Overall people with opinions I value have consistently told me he was a good guy with Ayr' best interests at heart.
I think his own personality hasn't helped him either, not his fault but you probably need to be less reticent with the general fanbase at a club like Ayr.
I along with others have probably tagged some blame onto him for shit that Barr actually caused.
Overall I'm more than happy to pay my cash at the moment and would urge anyone who doesn't attend to get their arse along to Somerset before it's too late, this side might just be the real deal, for the oldies out there, come along and see what the legend Dixie Ingram would have looked like with less heading ability and dynamite in both feet.
I don’t think it is shite though.
The guy has spunked a small fortune in keeping the club going at this level.
Ok so maybe we would survive at a lower level and could be competing with the Annan’s and the Montrose’s of the world but for me that’s not the Ayr United I support.
We should be in the top 22 in Scottish Football 100% of the time and without the level of support Lauchlan puts in that would be very hard to achieve.
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42 minutes ago, Trogdor said:
You made a reasoned argument to this point and in principle I agree with you. However, having a pop at lapsed fans isn't going to bring them back either!
Not having a pop at them. Just suggesting that their protests are not achieving anything constructive. They are all quick to bemoan the lack of investment/progress etc but are too stubborn to realise they are part of the problem.
And anyway if these guys are put off going back because of someone supposedly having a pop aand them on a message board they need to toughen up a bit.
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51 minutes ago, mccurdieboy said:58 minutes ago, North Terrace Gazza said:
Do you think going full time and getting this team signed up, including Shankland is cheap?No I certainly don't but why has it taken so long to do it look at teams like Livingston and the 2 highlanders we should be bigger than them we have history a lot longer than them.
Roy McGregor has bankrolled Ross County and ICT had a similar benefactor who’s name escapes me.
Dont even start me on how Livvy have got to where you hey are.......
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1 hour ago, mccurdieboy said:
True but in that time Ayr have brought in a load of money to the club where I have never seen much be reinvested into the club but I also think South Ayrshire council don't do much good for Ayr either no advertising for any the games.
What money? Outwith a couple of cup runs there hasn’t been a magic pot of gold. It’s not like we’ve been raking in the transfer fees.
The club has been running at a deficit for years and has needed directors loans to stay solvent. All the money from Cup runs etc just goes towards reducing the deficit.
Id be interested to see the clubs financials from last year as there’s no way with league one crowds and full time football that we would have been even close to breaking even.
Like it or no without Lachlan the club would be dead. Lapsed fans with chips on their shoulders and their one man protests are not helping either.
Get behind the club.
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14 minutes ago, Roxanne's man said:
Just had a thought there.
Does anyone remember a shop up the old Kyle Street in Ayr that sold Ayr united shirts?
I remember Debenhams sold them soon after they threw that building up.
Why don't they sell Ayr shirts in the town centre?
Because if they only sell them via the club shop the club keep all the profits.
Thought that would be fairly obvious.
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1 minute ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:
It was AFC Fylde.
Always knew Dundee was behind the times...
You’re about an hour late with this revelation.
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11 minutes ago, Dindeleux said:
Don't know anything about Ayr's financial situation but surely £100K would be too much of a gamble to turn down.
I don’t think we need the money that desperately.
It would destroy the good feeling that’s been built up and this is the year where there’s a really good chance of us staying up and getting established in the championship which will be worth more than 100k in the medium/longterm.
It would be very shortsighted to accept such a paltry amount.
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4 hours ago, Ludo*1 said:
We've put in a bid for Shankland according to one of our fan pages. Says you value him at around 250k whereas we have bid closer to the 100k mark.
Do Dundee even have 100k to spend?
If they're serious I hope we can expect the full fee paid upfront, would hate for you guys to get into financial trouble and be unable to pay your debts.......... again.
Of course I would much rather we told you to stick your money up your arse. I'm sure Lawrence will see his future at a higher level than Dundee who will be in a 3 way battle to avoid ending up in the same league he's in now anyway. If it wasn't for rookie Kenny MIller's Lavy and the permacrap Accies, Dundee would be an absolute stick on for relegation this year.
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Looking forward to hastily making changes to my team every Friday night for the next 10 months with little or no thought...
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22 minutes ago, ayrmad said:
This team are not getting relegated.
Of course they’re not.
i was just saying we would’ve been wise to take the cash for Balatoni when we had the chance.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
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3 hours ago, Superhursy7 said:3 hours ago, Robbo63 said:Hope your right , I think it all depends on our position come January
Best case scenario would be a club wanting to buy him but loan him back to then of the season like Celtic and Louis Morgan, I agree with d'jaffo I'd rather lose him for nothing at the end of the season than get money and end up back in league 1
Hopefully it won’t be another Balatoni scenario where we knock back the hard cash in January only to be relegated and him leave for nothing.
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Highlights are up! Shanklands goal is a thing of beauty.
Watching them it could’ve been Partick 2-10 Ayr, we looked like scoring every time we got within 20yards of goal.
The first goal was magnificent thanks to excellent pressing by Robbie Crawford, didn’t give up and pressured the defender into an awful error.
Got a really good feeling about this season.
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5 minutes ago, Waniche said:
Someone said last night that Doc is only contracted till January. Is it 6 months remaining on an 18 month deal or 6 months to prove fitness?
6 months to prove his fitness
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2 hours ago, Roxanne's man said:
My fear is, that if Ayr get Relagated (I have severely high hopes that they won't.) Mccall will leave the club, taking all the players that only signed a one year deal with him. Leaving Ayr as a dump again. Cameron will get fed up and Jack it in and sell to the first bidder.
If Cameron was going to walk away he would’ve walked away years ago.
Like him or loathe him he has singlehanded year kept the club alive for 10+ years.
Has he been frustrating? Absolutely.
Was he naive in his earlier seasons? Absolutely, particularly around the new stadium and some of his managerial appointments.
Staying up is probably his best chance to get shot of the club, if we go down there are unlikely to be a line of potential suitors queuing up, establish us as a Championship side and you never know.
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1 hour ago, Superhursy7 said:
Hare-Reid is a kiwi but apart from him I can't remember any not brits for while, gone are the days of the djaffo, finbogasan, Castila, Rolling, horrice etc days.
I’m pretty sure he was actually born in aberdeen so technically he’s Scottish.
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4 minutes ago, Roxanne's man said:
Morning peeps.
Maybole last night.... Ooft. Was mental.
Jeezo man Roxanne must be so proud.
too much time on your hands.
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19 minutes ago, Roxanne's man said:
Bigger stadium. Bigger crowds. Higher opposition. Say we did get into the play-offs this season, It wouldn't matter a f**k because Ayr cant go any higher due to their stadium. Better stadium attracts better players blah blah blah.
We need a new stadium, I don't like this 'settling' that we do at Ayr, get some ambition and get somewhere above the 'normality'of the Second and third tiers of Scottish football that we seem to be stuck in.
How are we paying for this new stadium exactly?
we do have some fucking roasters that follow us don’t we?
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1 hour ago, AyrExile said:
Are we forgetting Balatoni and McKenna. Fleming surely has to get the nod over someone who hasn’t played a senior game yet. Although he was shite last time around Harkins played last season and perhaps this season at a higher level than ourselves so I would take back providing he was played in the correct position.
I said earlier on the thread that I actually though Balatoni was decent and probably would’ve taken him back.
Fleming was competent in league 1 but couldn’t handle the championship, will Doohan fair any better ? Nobody knows yet.
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46 minutes ago, Panda Pies said:
Does Roxanne's man:
a) have a carer
b) smoke a crack pipe
c) have an addiction to football manager
d) all of the aboveYou missed e) is Ally Morrison or his illegitimate child
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1 hour ago, Roxanne's man said:
Greg Fleming? No? Surely he'd be welcomed back.
If it wasn’t for his penalty record he’d have been hunted.
The Xmas eve game at home to Dumbarton when he flapped at all 3 goals being a particular sore point.
Makes Jordan Hart look strong on crosses.
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2 minutes ago, ayrunitedfw said:
After the way Ross McCrorie was treated when here you can’t really blame Robby/his family for not wanting to come here.
I’ve heard this banded about a few times without ever really being full explained.
What is it that happened to Ross?
Surely if the boy really didn’t want to come it would’ve been made clear weeks ago?
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7 minutes ago, Pick that one out Marshall said:
To lighten things up a bit....
Trivia Question
Which former Ayr United player played in a Champions League Qualifier yesterday?
Ironically in the position we are desperate to fill.......
Peter Cherrie anyone?
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38 minutes ago, ayrunitedfw said:
I rest my case. Going into the season with no cover for fullback. Nice.
Dreading the season ahead.
I’d much rather see Finn Ecrepont get a run than David Ferguson .
We’re hardly going in with no fullbacks.
much rather we spent the budget on a keeper.
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The Ultimate Super Ayr Thread
in Scottish Championship General Chatter
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Just to add, South Ayrshire is the smallest of the 3 Ayrshire districts.
Fife has a higher population than all of Ayrshire combined and both South and North Lanarkshire are about the same size in their own right than all of Ayrshire combined.