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Obviously the way you have replied your taking it personally in regards that you follow the team That's up to you. Too many people do this and just aint objective as they try and find the faults. First hand knowledge in regards to dealing with a few Kilsyth teams, friends at Kilsyth games, coaching staff of teams and speaking two 2 committee members of your team. Im sorry if you think that I think that you think that I think I know it all. I most certainly do not think that I know it all even if you think that I think that I know it all That's up to you if you think it an attack, then please do, take it as such. I'm telling you what my viewpoint is of the club in regards to youth community football connection. its my viewpoint and is not an attack I didn't say Kilsyth wur a shite team, bad football or anything like that, Only seen them play once, which was the previous season so could never make a judgement from that

Honestly I give up sometimes The typing was put in bold so it was easily identified, genuinely if I thought that was a problem I would have put yours in bold I have started my post from my viewpoint, from my experience first hand that they are one of the worst in regards to youth community football connection, (and Ill add), when there is so much potential on their doorstep . You saying I heard it from people I've spoken too, I've also seen it first hand and I'm only living 3 miles away from Kilsyth. its my view point, either I'm wrong or I'm right. if I'm wrong then I'm sure Kilsyth will flourish in the future, if Im right then potentially Kilsyth could suffer further behind most teams, especially the ones who have a youth connection If you take that as an attack, then I'm sorry you are wrong, I'm stating what I believe is true. The club runs its own way and think they are doing right and great but you also state things why there not many of the local community get behind Kilsyth or sponsors would rather go to other teams and different levels. if this is true then these things must be addressed in order for Kilsyth to continue as a club

This coming season will be 2001 and younger, so this means lad sat u21 teams who are 2001 or younger and eligible for the development squad, the 2000 and 1999 lads wont be

This is not a swipe at you KRFC or Kilsyth Rangers FC and please do not take it as such. It's my view point from my experience, I don't know the running of the club, I do not wish to and never will but I hope Kilsyth flourish in the future under the WOS

But Inanimate I'm not having a go at the club. They have no youth policy and not interested but should they be shot down for that, no because its their prerogative. The information stated from me was what I know first hand, not information passed to me as I genuinely were interested. I think the hardest thing for any ex junior club committee that has been running a junior team for years and year to all of a sudden move to the senior ranks, all they have known is now changed so you cant expect any committee to just turn and then start an Under 20s team as well or an academy. In the way football is changing I think its something all clubs should be looking into the youth section to further their future

You had a feeling they were going to be inundated, hopefully they get the right people involved and get an nder20s development team up and running

Nope, there is no interaction to youth clubs well up until January this year, they say they do but in realty they don't, well not last year, being based near the area and working with other first team and youth clubs, I should know. You had two Kilsyth youth teams, talented ones who folded, the Under 19s manager told me because the lads got fed up and didn't see any point, so most didn't turn up to training or games due to work. No point in the football as after 19s they wouldn't be playing as there was nothing there and yes, I also spoke to a couple of boys from the team who said exact same thing. Why as they didn't see a pathway with the local part time team, neither did the management so that's why they called it a day. The team I was involved in Played KilsythFC and I chatted to a few Committee men at the game and their attitude was the same about the Pyramid, "naw, were not interested, were a junior team and always will be" and finding out about youth teams, working with an academy "no, were happy the way it is and will just bring players in". Attracting fans, yeah Kilsyth will always attract fans but not that many young ones but they always will attract fans but it could be so much more and stronger but the committee, from a year ago would definitely need to make way for ones with vision Unfortunately Krfc, I don't state a view without backup. Its the reason why I've came to that conclusion and working in coaching for a long time. Even though I'm stating this view, it obviously gets a few peoples backs up and its not meant to be an attack, its a point of view of a club that I have from experience, asking the questions and being involved. Not sure if you feel that way because you have a connection to the club but sorry if you do, its my view of the club in relation to my points. In regards t any club, fans or people with connection, its hard to be objective as sometimes it even hurts but if you want to aim for a better future with your team you have to try and be objective, I know I do with the clubs I work with and try to be realistic, that was you come out of it with some modicum of success which the club, youths all benefit from

Now Trafford, you know you've been told, anyone that replies to your stupid posts must be reported to me as I'm the only one who is allowed to rip the pish out of you and your stupid posts lolol You cheer me up, love ya to bits and up the 'save the grade brigade', hope you don't piss them off. Anyways its still mental Illness week and I've been working hard to help those with problems

Adding onto Dev;s Post this is what is known on the West sided teams This is what I do know now Have confirmed Officially that they have or are applying or ran an Under 20s team in season 19/20. Nothing is guaranteed until after June the 15th when deadline for applications Dunipace have an U20s confirmed but admittedly, (if a regionalised development league starts, East and West) then they are unsure at the moment for WOS or EOS Cumbernauld Colts Braves / Edusport BSC Bonnyton Thistle Upper Annandale Mid Annandale Bellshill New to U20s Development CONFIRMED Clydebank New to U20s Development CONFIRMED Shettleston New to U20s Development CONFIRMED Troon FC New to U20s Development CONFIRMED Vale of Leven New to U20s Development CONFIRMED Rossvale New to U20s Development CONFIRMED East Kilbride FC New to U20s Development CONFIRMED Carluke Rovers FC New to U20s Development CONFIRMED Darvel FC New to U20s Development CONFIRMED St Cadocs FC New to U20s Development CONFIRMED POSSIBLY; Teams who have expressed an interest (two teams from the group below I know will be applying to the U20 development league so that would take it to 16 teams from the West side and with an impressive, excellent East side, the Lowland U20s Development League looks as if is growing from strength to strength) Definitely looked into where a official of the first team, (coach or committee member) has said they intend to have a development team in the U20s league Newmains United Neilston Rutherglen Glencairn Gartcairn Whitletts Victoria Johnston Burgh Yoker teams definitely interested but nothing official in any way, shape or form Kilwinning Pollok Kirkintilloch Rob Roy Largs Thistle Irvine Meadow Cumbernauld and Cumnock are looking into it but think it looks like 21/22 when they are ready Beith definitely next year 21/22

Anyways folks it looks as if there is going to be a strong contingent of West sided teams in the Lowland U20 Development league. With the Lowland league rising from 29 teams (19/20) to over 50 teams (20/21) Exciting times ahead for the whole Lowland Development league and football in general

Got a little info that Yoker might be perusing an application to join for this coming season

This is what I do know now Have Applied or ran an Under 20s team in season 19/20 Dunipace have an U20s confirmed but admittedly unsure at the moment for WOS or EOS Cumbernauld Colts Braves / Edusport BSC Bonnyton Thistle Upper Annandale Mid Annandale Bellshill New to U20s Development CONFIRMED Clydebank New to U20s Development CONFIRMED Shettleston New to U20s Development CONFIRMED Troon FC New to U20s Development CONFIRMED Vale of Leven New to U20s Development CONFIRMED Rossvale New to U20s Development CONFIRMED East Kilbride FC New to U20s Development CONFIRMED POSSIBLY; Teams who have expressed an interest (two teams from the group below I know will be applying to the U20 development league so that would take it to 14 teams from the West side and with an impressive, excellent East side, the Lowland U20s Development League looks as if is growing from strength to strength) St Cadocs Newmains United Darvel Neilston Rutherglen Glencairn Gartcairn Whitletts Victoria Johnston Burgh Kilwinning Pollok Kirkintilloch Rob Roy Largs Thistle Irvine Meadow Cumbernauld, Cumnock and Yoker are looking into it but think it looks like 21/22 when they are ready Beith definitely next year 21/22

We can add EK to the list of U20 teams

I think it was wrong the way I posted it. Any team can start a development squad if they have too, just take a local u19s team and make them the development team but its my fault I'm not meaning that way or other ways, what I meant by the post is that Dalry is a sparsely populated area and its hard to get a constant supply of youths for an academy structure and again I can be wrong. All I mean is Pollok with over 80 teams, Rossvale with over 70 teams and Clydebank over 30 teams in their academy can quite easily have a development team ready to take the reigns. so its harder for Dalry, Lugar, Kello Rovers etc.. due to area populated. Personally Id love every frigging team to supply a development team but that's just wishful thinking on my part

Yes I'm totally in agreement there but that's up to them and hopefully they learn early that that methodology in youth development wont work before they destroy youths chances of being developed properly. If Darvel start a U20 team and join the Development league then I say, fantastic, it's up to them as a combined unit with the youth academy n committee and Darvel Fc management and committee to get it right for the years to come, if they do then double fantastic , that's all I can say. To add to this, Billy you are 100% correct that some don't know but that's to be expected, you have 63 junior teams leaving the juniors of which they have existed and only known and now they have moved to senior football which is a big step and with all the ins and outs to learn about senior football, some of them are putting/finding the time to add a U20 development team in which I say well done to everyone one of them going that far and hope it pays off for every team

You know what by my counting, I reckon we will nearly have 20 west region U20 teams. if so and the lowland league decide to regionalize the league then we either gonna have a 20 team league or if we start late I can see two conferences of 10 teams each with the top 8 from each division going into a top division the following year

heaven forbid, this is not personal but I love you to bits, you cheer me up no end. Do you know, when I see your name straight away, I giggle even before I read your post Can I ask you, please be here for the next few years and when there's only a handful of teams from the West who have kept their junior status, don't go in a huff when people rip the pish out of you and all you hear is 'We told you so, junior football is finished' For anyone else, Junior football was fantastic in its day and should always be remember in each teams history but times move on and that's what it will be for many teams, an important part of their history, I know I remember every part of my years in junior football Anyways, read the posters post below hes that good, he makes me think "would I pay to see Pollok V Auchineck in the junior cup final or sit and watch him on stage sprouting his one man beliefs"

Hey Billy This is not meant to get at you so please do not take it that way. it seems you have a problem or difference of opinions with DL and not Darvel FC, unless I'm mistaken, and to be honest, he's had my comments as well when he's been out of hand but development football is about just that, developing players for the future, its not about buying youth players Need to get a squad U19s & 20s for our Development/Pathway sorted quickly That's the same that happened in the East, many teams joined the seniors from the juniors and wanted a youth team and got a local team as their development squad. I'm not saying this is wrong as its giving a lads a quick pathway at a higher level but it definitely pays to be ready and develop lads through the years for the step up We can't wait for another 2 to 3 years (Natural cycle) There is no natural cycle if you do it right, it will be a constant flow of players coming through every year. This is the problem with many teams and peoples views, a development squad isn't the same team for the whole year, If the current U19s becomes the new development team then there maybe a boys at the U17s or U16 who is naturally gifted or too good for that age so you would bring him up for the development squad for experience. Christ .... a lot of competition from other ex Junior teams, what do we have that they don't That's just normal developing, if your training is of a good standard, players being developed, the right promotion then people will hear about it and want to join Cash & promise of a shot at senior squad ..... Lets just call it travelling expenses though What idiotic and yes I'll say idiotic team want to pay youth players to join their development team. You may as well hold onto the money and wait for a good first team player to come up and buy him. The only reason we will be paying any of our lads is that we are all in agreement, first team management and committee and development management that some boys are too good so we would put them on a contract so no one can take them away from us without paying. The development league is not about winning plastic cups, its about putting lads in a strong league of youth players and seeing and helping them develop into players whom will eventually be good enough for the first time or beyond.

We can now add Whitletts Victoria to the list. I was told they weren't interested a few weeks ago but received news that they intend to apply just got a small obstacle to get over and they're sorted

Hey Billy Forgot Darvel trained in Glasgow, there's many clubs who do this all over Scotland I suppose, teams like Darvel and Murikirk did so when I played doon in Ayrshire, well I'm positive they did, sorry if I'm wrong You don't offer money for development players, why would anyone do that, a development squad and that would defeat the purpose, its about developing lads and producing them to reach the first team level. In the development league you will get coaches who are only interested in winning, some interested in development and some who will hopefully be good at both. Yes you really want the development to train alongside the first team but my preference would be one night only You only have first team player sin the development squad for a couple of reasons, for example, a player coming back from injury or a player needing match fitness. The first team players can only play for the development squad on a league match, They cannot play in any cup ties unless they are birth age 2001 or younger. its hard for any team in smaller areas to have training faculties or operate under certain criteria, if it means they have to play or train further afield then so be it

Hi Billy it will be interesting to see if Darvel enter an U20's team for 2020/21 & if so where the squad will come from, Glasgow area £££? -- There are areas that are not populated well with a lot of youths but this should not diminish the fact that they are trying to start a development team or even working with a youth academy further away. I haven't a clue why you would put the pound sign after Glasgow, I admit it threw me there. As far as I know the new affiliation with Galston Youth did not have any U12, 17, 19's this season, so no natural progression/pathway to U20's -- I've got to go with your better judgment Billy as I don't know how the youth academy is at each age group. Suppose all they have to do it get the right park, the right coaching staff and find an Under 19s team nearish who want to try their luck at a higher level One of their posters pointed out on here that some of their teams have to travel to Auchinleck etc. therefore I cant see how this is going to get better if they are gong to introduce another 4 teams/squads to area.... just a thought as not only for this area but others too. I have noticed this is past when SPL Clubs started their own Academies & bumped out local Boys Clubs from the schools that had new 3G pitches installed -- Look at Upper Annandale, they are based at Moffat but play their home games at Benburbs ground as I'm sure the area around Mid Annandale is not populated with a lot of youths so suppose they have to try and get lads from somewhere. Dalry for example, one of my teams, I cannot see how they would enter a development team as there's nothing much in the way of youths coming through, admit I could be wrong though. The bumped out schools thing, Billy that happens to lots of teams and its not just from SPFL teams, its other teams of people who have a connection or contact etc.. so I wouldn't blame them only. The councils can take the blame as well. Interesting time ahead now that ex Juniors are interested in local Boys Clubs (And Girls teams) This has always been the case as in most junior teams were too busy to care about youth teams but now with them moving over and some doing a little research they can see how much benefit it can be to them, the community and the progression or youths development and personally I'm over the moon with more and more teams who show an interest in this. There has already been quite a few of us interested in this while working at youth academies and seeing what happened over in the East when many teams just took a youth set up and included it their own system or just taking a youth team and turning telling them they can be their development team. Lots of teams here, and academies have bene preparing for this or working with this in mind and are ready for the switch to the development leagues and hopefully this will just have the standard rise

That's what we're looking at just now. We have a long standing relationship with the SYFA West u21s, but we are very interested in the u20s Development League. It's how or when we do it that we need to decide. There's no immediate rush to decide, we have until 15th June if we want to join now, so we're weighing up all the options. Agreed there is no rush, and remember the u20s and u21s are two separate entities. The Under 21s come under the SYFA and the U20s comes under the SFA/Lowland League. The U20s is run by the senior team and the U21s are either separately run or part of a youth academy. If any Shettleston has a U20s and an Under 21s, or any team for that matter which has both then that would be fantastic as its keeping lads involved in football This is what I do know now Have Applied or ran an Under 20s team in season 19/20 Dunipace have an U20s confirmed but admittedly unsure at the moment for WOS or EOS Cumbernauld Colts Braves / Edusport BSC Bonnyton Thistle Upper Annandale Mid Annandale Bellshill New to U20s Development CONFIRMED Clydebank New to U20s Development CONFIRMED Shettleston New to U20s Development CONFIRMED Troon FC New to U20s Development CONFIRMED Vale of Leven New to U20s Development CONFIRMED Rossvale New to U20s Development CONFIRMED POSSIBLY; Teams who have expressed an interest (two teams from the group below I know will be applying to the U20 development league so that would take it to 14 teams from the West side and with an impressive, excellent East side, the Lowland U20s Development League looks as if is growing from strength to strength) Kilwinning Pollok East Kilbride Kirkintilloch Rob Roy Largs Thistle Irvine Meadow St Cadocs Newmains United Darvel Neilston Rutherglen Glencairn Gartcairn I'm now expecting at least 4 from the possible group above to apply to join the Lowland U20s Development league Cumbernauld, Cumnock and Yoker are looking into it but think it looks like 21/22 when they are ready Beith definitely next year 21/22

There are just people who don't fully understand the concept, how things are run or do the right research with the right people. Shettleston are wrong, there are plenty of teams going Under20s from the West side, I would expect Shettleston realised they didn't have enough players for the Under 20s as most players from the U21s are not eligible to play at U20s. There are two conferences at the moment with 29 teams, one of which wont be renewing this year, (Newtongrange) but there are about 4 teams starting from the new East of Scotland teams and right now from information I've received there is about 15 odd teams from the West side which include the 6 teams from the west who are Bonnyton, Cumbernauld Colts, Bsc, Mid Annandale, Upper Annandale and Caledonian braves. As BTID says above, All U20s teams are applying for the Lowland u20s development league and right now that means its an all-in but the U20s chairman and secretary think if there's enough its most likely they will start a U20s West region and 2 x East regions, but this will be voted by from all clubs once all clubs are confirmed and accepted. I've spoked to quite a few East teams who are over the moon at the new u20s movement on the West side and all that I've spoken too would be happy if there's a west region and all the west teams would be happy at a west region and a east region. if the Shettleston statement is official then its totally naïve from someone who doesn't know the ins and outs. I will say I have seen nothing on any official Shettleston twitter or Facebook announcing the U20s is finished and that the U21s is starting up again. only seen it on Shettleston U21s facebook

The U20s league is run by the Lowland league and yes all games will be on a Friday evening. There were 29 teams at the end of this season just when lockdown started, (mostly made of of East region sided teams bar about 6 or 7 teams) but next season I believe there is somewhere near in the region of 40 teams so it looks like there will be a West divisions and maybe two east divisions

I started laughing when I seen your post your the bomb and love ya too bits, for ffs, don't delete your id, we all need a laugh. I can easily tear your post to shreds, The comments I have made are due to me speaking to the committee people, speaking to the manager at the time and speaking to many in the community, as I said, I can rip you a new one in every post you do but I kinda get bored once the giggling stops lolol I love it that you keep referring to junior football, don't you realise its fading away because of guys like you