Fratelli
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How in the name of f**k has me missed that.
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1 minute ago, Detournement said:
One team that has been training to peak for this for 6 weeks and one team that have been having a jolly at clubs with nothing to play for.
I mean, their best players have been playing as much football as ours.
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We're absolutely miles off it here. For all the hubris re: Wales, Bale would absolutely shag this defence to bits, even on one leg.
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Folk who have actually watched Hickey at RB have been fairly consistent in the fact that he's really not great there. The only folk saying otherwise are folk who have decided they like him just didn't want that to be true.
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Abysmal defending. Fucking terrible.
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Dykes hooked
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Have been a few occasions where we've had the chance to play and then just passed it back for it to be launched, so our lack of football almost seems intentional. Midfield is our strongest position, so bypassing it doesn't do us many favours.
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Dykes has been effective, but you're never that confident of his general control when it's played to his feet. I wouldn't have him hooked, but as in pretty much every one of his performances - he does something daft and is now another one of those from getting himself sent off. Asking him to stop chucking himself about nullifies half of his game too so it's a tricky one.
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Also Hickey is visibly uncomfortable on that side (which isn’t his fault) and no Twitter fanboy will tell me otherwise.
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We’re lumping it far too much. Our best performances have been with Gilmour and McGregor dictating play. Marked tightly mind.
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Deserved, we’ve been utter shite and don’t look like we’re even playing the same sport as the Ukrainians.
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We haven’t turned up here
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1 minute ago, SweeperDee said:
Fucking jury fucking up the compensation forms so they have to go and do that again.
Was wondering what the lull in atmosphere was about.
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Not played any real football yet. Look quite nervy.
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Exciting that. This daft idea of Clark being scared to chuck folk in and sticking to his favourites still seems to linger for some reason, but it's not been the case for about 2 years now. Looking forward to seeing what Hickey can do.
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I was an absolute wreck before the Serbia game, but we got the ball down pretty much instantly and looked unusually comfortable and confident in a game like that. Think it would've been a different story with a full house mind.
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I think i've basically spent the last couple of months in a haze assuming this game wouldn't happen, or that we'd be playing against some Ukranian C team (not really sure why) and it'd be a non contest. For those reasons i never really tried too hard to get a ticket, when most of my usual pals i go with are going.
The magnitude of it has just skelped me in the face out of nowhere. Fucking hell. A very tricky, but winnable game at Hampden to put us 90 minutes from a World Cup. Jesus.
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Lot of this patronising pro Ukraine chat from other Scottish folk has this sort of vibe to it:
Folk who aren’t into football, and evidently have zero clue about it chiming in with nonsensical opinions because it’s currently the hot topic of e-discourse. They’d normally spend their time moaning on the Glasgow/Edinburgh subreddits about sportsball fans and how they hate having to deal with crowds despite buying a flat next to a football stadium.
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40 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:
It was a very strong Ukraine team too and we smashed them, although I do recall a bit of trepidation when Schevchenko scored and pretty sure they had a great chance to equalise not long after, but second half we were in control and McFadden sealed it.
Full game is here:
Outrageous bit of play from Brown in the third minute to win the free kick we scored from - smashing into the boy, keeping it in play with a back heel and then nicking it away. I often forget what 2004-9ish Scott Brown was like - charging about at full pelt for 90 minutes. One of the most complete Scotland performances that day, the whole momentum from the campaign built up to it and absolutely everything just clicked - you can feel it in the crowd even looking back 15 years later.
Also - did they normally play what sounds like the first couple of seconds of Fools Gold before 500 miles or did the DJ press the wrong button after our first goal?
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He'd have been capped by them at some point in the last 3/4 years for sure, but aye he wouldn't be there on current form. I'm sure i recall an interview with him when he was still a youth player at United where he said he probably felt more Scottish than English, and there are photos of him at Scotland youth camps years ago - so i don't really classify him as yer typical parent/grandparent rule player.
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Did they scrap the free shuttle bus scheme they experimented with during the 2018 WC qualifiers? I used it a couple of times around then and found it quite handy, although obviously it'd only take a relatively small amount. Travel to and from Hampden for night (or any) games has always been a hassle. I know the infrastructure is what it is, but getting home from the national stadium just shouldn't be as much of pain in the arse as it.
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Just now, Day of the Lords said:24 minutes ago, Fratelli said:I mean there are now plenty videos which show that there were far more local fans/bams rushing/climbing the gates than Liverpool fans. There are also an equal number of videos which show the French police going way overboard and spraying folk who posed absolutely zero threat to anyone, and near enough every single reporter/journalist on the scene has dismissed UEFA's narrative as utter nonsense. Liverpool evidently do have a large number of roasters following them and folk were undoubtedly trying to blag it, but by all accounts last night was an organisational failure more than anything else. I don't really find that hard to believe given the number of shambolic UEFA events recently.
"Not quite as many Liverpool fans were behaving like arseholes as initially thought" isn't a great defence tbh, especially given their previous.
That's the point though. Some may have been behaving like arseholes, but the shambles last night was not caused by Liverpool fans. It's now quite clear that UEFA have thrown out, and greatly exaggerated the ticket thing to deflect from their own mismanagement, and loads have swallowed it despite evidence suggesting otherwise. A lot of this automatic rush to assume that it's those scousers at it yet again due to some horrific things that happened 30+ years ago has a real Kelvin MacKenzie vibe to it. Not that you're necessarily doing that, but a lot of the rhetoric from last night has that feel to it. A quick look at some of the trending hashtags on Twitter will tell you that.
I should point out that i generally despise Liverpool, was quite happy to see them lose and do align with the view of their fans being absolute riddy merchants at times. However UEFA need slaughtered for their continual inability to manage fairly simple events without turning them into absolute chaos, the tribalistic deflection to blame certain sets of fans - and i include the patter from other Celtic fans last week - lets them off the hook.
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12 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said:
How many big occasions is now that Liverpool fans have behaved atrociously?
Heysel: basically directly responsible for the deaths of Juve fans, blamed the police, Juve fans for goading them and the stadium being such a wreck that they were able to throw bits of it at Juve fans.
Istanbul: Liverpool fans without tickets (shock) tried to force access to an already sold out stadium.
Last night: see above, blame the authorities because their dipshit fans bought fake tickets, couldn't get in and caused a massive delay. See also forcing access.
Hillsborough was a complete tragedy and the fault of the police and other authorities, making it very much the outlier.
Liverpool fans have an exceptionally large massive element of selfish, moronic cretins. They're definitely the old firm of English football, possibly worse. Issuing tear-stained statements merely cements this view. You can't behave like arseholes then shoehorn Hillsborough references in and expect to absolved of blame. c***s.I mean there are now plenty videos which show that there were far more local fans/bams rushing/climbing the gates than Liverpool fans. There are also an equal number of videos which show the French police going way overboard and spraying folk who posed absolutely zero threat to anyone, and near enough every single reporter/journalist on the scene has dismissed UEFA's narrative as utter nonsense. Liverpool evidently do have a large number of roasters following them and folk were undoubtedly trying to blag it, but by all accounts last night was an organisational failure more than anything else. I don't really find that hard to believe given the number of shambolic UEFA events recently.
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That was the moment. We missed a fucking stupid amount of chances at the Euros and were punished. You just can't miss those.