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Also got to bear in mind that as soon as the current restrictions are eased, cases will climb again. All that the mini lockdowns are really equivalent to is holding someone under water - as soon as you let go, they come up again. Cases will rise again. This has never been denied and it's openly the strategy - keep the impact on NHS at as realistic a minimum as possible.That we're artificially plateauing at 1000+ cases a day doesn't bode well for the weeks ahead.
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While yesterday's figure was artificially highest it was easily on a par with days prior to the ballsed up weekend data.
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6 minutes ago, AlanCamelonfan said:
Never said all were gradists. But too many people don't want the WOSFL to not work. Been so much negativity from the west. Yet we have got on with it in the east and no its not perfect. But comments like sweeps really don't help at all.
I would absolutely love it to work - but I am not convinced now is the time.
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10 hours ago, G51 said:
There's a great deal of confusion over it at the minute apparently. It will all sort itself out over the next 48 hours, as the restrictions kick in on Wednesday night.
EDIT: Just to follow up on this, Ireland is allowing "all professional, elite sports and inter-county Gaelic games" to continue during restrictions under an exemption. So the LOI will continue, despite being a semi-professional league. It only has four games left to finish the season. https://www.gov.ie/level5
And here in Scotland we allowed all leagues outwith the Scottish Amateur FA's jurisdiction to continue in the central belt after the banning of all 'non Professional contact sports' - the SFA had to argue with the Scottish Government for that but they succeeded. So guys playing for expenses alone (as a fair proportion are) were green lighted to play. The SG's own definition of 'Professional' was people who earned their main income from playing sport (or words to that effect).
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10 hours ago, Bestsinceslicebread said:
With Pollok for example. one of the big clubs, with paying support and no sugar daddy, Id say their average crowd being somewhere from 400 to 600, ( some games were way above that size), last year and with a normal playing squad about 24/25, the minimum they would be paying out just for playing staff would be about £2000 a week, and that's a conservative estimate on outlay, I'd really expect nearing £3000 and if Pollok were charging £7 a game for the new season and new league then it would be somewhere between £2800 and £4200 a week that they are bringing in if its one game per week.
Personally this tells me that its totally understandable why Pollok pulled the plug this season and I don't blame them.
You could go through the reasoning for each and every team who has withdrawn this season and the same with every team that stayed.
We could never envisage this Covid effect throughout the world and how its massacred our football throughout the country and I don't think any blame can be put on any of the clubs for their decision or for the associations and the decisions they came to being spelt out by the Government and Nicola SturgeonLast season's average for all games was 520, 547 in the league alone.
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43 minutes ago, Andy groundhopper said:
Based on say an 18 man squad and management, that's a pretty high number. Heard of clubs down in Bristol (step 5/6) having a weekly budget of £2,000 getting under 200 through the gate at £6 a head. Must be generous sponsors eh.
yeah well crowds are higher than that at the clubs I am thinking of but it will be more like a 20-24 man squad plus management.
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2 hours ago, Andy groundhopper said:
Am ever hopeful that fans can come back in 2021, in decent numbers too. Guess that most clubs did the maths and were hoping fans would be back by November/December. If anyone knows, what sort of money are clubs talking about , £50 - £100 a game ? or more than that ? Helps to understand what clubs actually require every week just to keep going.
There are clubs in this set up with SIX figure annual wage bills. Others that pay expenses only.
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7 minutes ago, gaswork said:
All these clubs know themselves what gets them by far better than anyone , all these fans at other clubs on guessing at this guessing at that on how they can survive.
They will survive because the people in charge know what they are doing , they have survived far worse than a virus that has to be confronted at some point .
All participants are now all looking forward to this coming season starting today as the fixtures have been announced and what a fixture list it is!
All these so called bigger clubs definetly expected far far more clubs to have pulled out than have you can bet your house on it now they are left scratching their heads wondering what the hell have we just done.
The only one definitely wrong is you.
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I also have seen reference to teams having players 'defer' wages- are they looking to be paid in full when fans do return? And how many fans have to return for wages to kick in?
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2 minutes ago, Le Tout P'ti FC said:
Nice wee edit. I'm not even remotely offended, just highlighting your weird posting about the teenage lassie.
What's modern society like eh? You can't go ferreting about the Google to post pictures of lassies, without any possible context to do so, without some snowflake finding you a bit of an outdated sexist.I only googled her because she had what is typically a lad's name and sounded like a young teenage boy. I was surprised to see the BBC using a recently left school teen and that was the purpose of the post. The pic was illustrative of the post.
I have no idea what Sandra Brown or Heather Dewar look like, nor do I care. I am not remotely sexist and as I said before, I have no view on any of the BBC's female employees / freelancers (unless they're shite - and that equally applies to the men as well).
I will accept ageist but sexist is wide of the mark on this one. I couldn't give the slightest shit whether the BBC use men or women.
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8 minutes ago, Le Tout P'ti FC said:
Goodness me, a "lassie"?
Looks from her bio like a suitably qualified broadcast journalist to me. Are you planning on putting up pictures, bios, gender and age information about any of the other contributors to today's programme?Was more a comment on her age - not many teenagers on OAM. I have listened to McLaughlin, Dewar, Brown etc over the years without need to comment on their gender.
Whose bio would you like? I'll try and get it for you before the Offended Bus comes along.
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There's a lassie doing open all mics today that is younger than most of the players. Makes a change from gruff old duffers I suppose
https://www.linkedin.com/in/arran-hannah-0a7331172/?originalSubdomain=uk
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Girvan also.
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Update from up North (c/o Montrose Roselea fb):
There are four clubs who do not wish to play football without the use of changing facilities - they are Dufftown, Fraserburgh United, Montrose Roselea and Spey Valley United.With Buckie Rovers going into abeyance that leaves us with 28 clubs.We have split the 28 clubs into four groups of 7 geographically.North - Burghead Thistle, Deveronside, Forres Thistle, Islavale, Nairn St Ninian, New Elgin and WhitehillsBanff / Buchan - Buchanhaven Hearts, Colony Park, Cruden Bay, Ellon United, Longside, Maud, Rothie RoversAberdeen City (south) - Aberdeen University, Banchory St Ternan, Banks o' Dee, Culter, Glentanar, Stonehaven and SunnybankAberdeen City (north) - Aberdeen East End, Bridge of Don Thistle, Dyce Juniors, Hall Russell United, Hermes, Newmachar United and Stoneywood ParkvaleThe proposal is for the season to start with a Grill League Cup style format comprising of eight groups. Each geographical section will have a group of 4 and a group of 3 and will play each other home and away. The winners of the groups will go into a knock-out tournament which hopefully will be completed later in the season once travel restrictions are eased.Following the completion of grill cup group matches, then we will be looking to play league matches based on your geographical section. You will play each other home and away and the winners and runners up of each geographical section will then go on to play in play-offs to see who is the eventual winner of the North Region and will represent the Association in the Scottish Cup.There will be no promotion or relegation, and so (hopefully) when things go back to normal next season, the league set up will be as it was before we stopped playing in March.Should any club that has indicated that they dont want to play football have a change of heart, they will need to inform the Association by the 30th January 2021 to be able to compete in the league format. This will give them the chance to catch up on their fixtures by the end of the season.5 -
On 15/10/2020 at 11:59, Willie adie said:
Typical Chris mclaughlin is he still riding eildidh barbour
Is his sister at a loose end any time soon?
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10 minutes ago, Derry said:
Is this the same drumchapel who have Adrian McKinnon etc
They gave him a job.
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43 minutes ago, theesel1994 said:
Yeah - sitting on the beach with his phone as the pubs are shut.
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9 minutes ago, gogsy said:
Pretty sure everyone knew that anyway
It has been discussed in this thread that the clubs who have sat out will miss out. Currently missing out on a share of 0%.
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Nicola Sturgeon just said in her press conference there is no Scottish Government money for football clubs. She and the SG continue to press Westminster to loosen the purse strings to provide something.
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32 minutes ago, Jerry Macguire said:
The other question i have is what happens if the SFA secure Government funding to support clubs? That funding should go to the clubs playing on without fans. Not the clubs who've decided to chuck it for a season. Right?
Agreed - but we would need a 6 figure sum to go on as normal. That isn't coming. Let's say every club outwith the public park amateurs got £10,000 - that's £2.5 million or thereabouts.
You can bet your last raffle ticket stub that the big boys will wolf down the biggest share of any bailout so let's say THEY got money that came close to covering their average losses - say a million each? How big a pot of cash are you anticipating?
I have said it already - I think help will go first to Licenced clubs. Those not licenced could be sitting on the pot for a while before anything drops. I don't anticipate much of a splash.
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20 minutes ago, Derry said:
Like many clubs at this level they have people who put money in sure fan money helps etc but how much really do U think fan money covers week to week not enough is the answer
Match day income of all types pays approx 50% of wage bill at Pollok. The rest is sponsorship and fundraising.
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7 minutes ago, Mkennedy said:
That not happening tho, everyone will be treated equally, John and myself would never allow that to happen. Changing rooms are too small and tight nit to start that nonsense.
Should be social distanced
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Saltcoats out.
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Johnny Millar & Co a covid casualty
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No, just not deluded about what we're living through - the worst health pandemic for 100 years according to Scotland's national clinical director earlier today.
I don't hope for clubs to do anything - it's for them to decide.