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Be interesting to see how much fresh damage this can do, and how much was already priced in for the SNP.
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So, any fun shit from the Q+A?
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3 minutes ago, Ro Sham Bo said:
Actually 3. Brechin, Alloa and QoS. Although it would be harsh to call the QoS defeat an epic failure I suppose.
Ah, so it was. We're gonna win the play offs some day.
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5 minutes ago, Scary Bear said:
On the face of it, this is pretty much the perfect scenario for approaching the play-offs. Three games to try things out with the pressure off. Then the play-offs. I’m quite looking forward to it.
Of the 7 play-offs we’ve been involved in, is it only two most recent ones where we’ve been playing for promotion to the top division?
2015-16 season we beat Hibs 1-0 at Starks with Harry Panayiotou scoring, then it was a 2-0 defeat at Easter Road. I only attended the home game. No doubt a birthday party or some such nonsense at the weekend back then.
Then 2020-21 season where we beat the Pars then lost to Dundee.
Two epic failures dropping into, then failing to get out of league 1 between those.
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16 minutes ago, Ro Sham Bo said:
I'm sure we'll follow the trajectory Ayr have this season if we stick with Murray. All the signs are there.
Who do you want instead?
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10 minutes ago, Ro Sham Bo said:
At no point this season have we played brilliantly. The only difference now is we aren't getting the late winners.
Whoever we play in the play offs, we're out. I'll be quite happy for us to bank the second place prize money and regroup over the summer.
Nah, not having that. At no point have we been the complete package but that's not the same as saying we havent had brilliant games.
We've probably seen some of the best attacking play from a Rovers team in a very long time. The fact we haven't defended leads very well is a feature, not a bug of the system. We swashbuckled our way into a good position, and you do it once - it's a fluke. Do it ten times and it's a product of superior fitness and gameplan.
We obviously should be looking to rebalance a bit in the Summer, regardless of league but to turn your nose up at some of the attacking moves that have picked apart more than one side in this league is daft, in my opinion.
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5 minutes ago, pub car king said:
Can't blame Murray for going fir it second half it was must win.
The blame for us false at the feet of a God awful first half performance by the players on the park.
There is going for it, and then there is chucking the kitchen sink at it, and sometimes he's guilty of ripping put the kitchen fixtures too early.
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Anyway, what's done is done and it's the play offs for us now. On the one hand it's a sign of progress that I'm feeling dissapointed at the prospect when the last two seasons I'd have bit your hand off for it.
Murray will get some flak and rightly so but he's managed to keep a defensively limited side going all season through some good attacking play, boldness verging and sometimes crossing into naivety and generally some entertaining chaos along the way.
Would not give you odds on how the play offs will turn out. Liklehood is that we are a championship side next season. Would be happy to get Matthews, Easton and Turner tied down if possible. Huge rebuild in defence required.
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1 minute ago, ohnononowheredidRossgo said:
FIne margins in the second half, gave ourselves far, far too much to do.
Arguably naive of Murray once again. Left no margin of error on the counter. Was there really nothing else he could think to do to get us back in the game without leaving ourselves wide open?
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55 minutes ago, rainbowrising said:
A must-win. A loss here and I can't see Raith getting the points back with only 4 to play.
Pretty much aye, a win tonight only get's us to the starting line. Anything less and we won't make a race of it.
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44 minutes ago, pub car king said:
I think from memory the Smith season Vaughan played as a striker in a 4 3 3 with Spence and Buchanan as opposed to on the wing.
It was more of a 4-4-2, verging on a 4-2-4 as you had Barr hugging the touchline on the other side.
Vaughan coming in off that wing was our principle threat, but even then he wasn't being asked to so much defensively and that kinda worked in league 1 then but even at that we looked over run in the middle.
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Should have been last week's lineup.
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27 minutes ago, pub car king said:
Even with Millen in the team I don't think Connolly has been anywhere near as effective as he was last season.
This might be down to us playing in a different way, his time out with injury or the revolving door at CB displacing Scott Brown in midfield for most of the season.
Aye, by and large the switch to the 4-1-3-2, away from the 4-2-3-1 is what has restricted Connolly's ability to get inside as often. Less space in the final third to cut inside and less freedom to drift up front with two strikers on the park and less defensive cover behind that he has responsibility for.
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57 minutes ago, AUcal said:
f**k Raith Rovers you'll never win the league etc etc.
Yeah, we know.
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5 hours ago, AUcal said:
Gutting to be missing this, have enjoyed recent visits to Kirkcaldy (not always the football, but the trip at least).
We are very inconsistent just now as are Rovers. I feel this has a draw written all over it. Would be happy enough with that but theres a part of me that hopes Raith are gutted after last weekend and we can capitalise.
A win would be huge, with probably only another 3 points after that needed to secure safety.
To be honest I'm expecting us to collapse like so much wet cardboard.
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Aye, absolutely no doubt we shat the bed there. Murray got the team line up all wrong, the tactics wrong and has thrown away the best shot we've had at this level in 15 years.
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36 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said:
We would normally offer Frew's to away fans, but for operational reasons, you lot can only use two thirds of Trades.
HTH
And only two taps at the far end.
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I suppose actual chat about the game tends to become more sparse this late into the season as most sides are by now running in a groove with little to surprise the fans. Even more so that everyone on both sides is shitting bricks.
A draw isn't a terrible result for Rovers, assuming we went and won our game in hand. Lose and we are hanging on by our fingernails, lose this and our game in hand and we're done.
I'm 90% sure we'll lose, if only because winning this would force me to confront the prospect we might actually win the league, and it's been 14 years since the last time we came up drastically short.
My guess is we play similarly to how we've set out since the Ayr game. Less expansive, tighter at the back and tey and hit on the counter. For that reason I suspect it'll be Rudden who starts over Hamilton.
We've done well against United this season, in large part I suspect because we've scored first and been happy to contain them. It remains to be seen how pur gameplan and our players wpuld adapt to being a goal down in thesr fixtures.
Going in hope, rather than expectation.
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11 hours ago, San Starko Rover said:
Any Rovers win please. Never an easy place to go and with our defence and Brian Graham it’ll be interesting. We’re not quite in the must win territory just yet but it’s getting close and we really need wins to put the pressure on Dundee Utd.
no idea how this will go with the exception of BTTS.If we aren't we are rapidly getting there. Lose tonight and we are an effective 5 points behind them with 9 to play. That'd leave us needing to match our first quarter total and hope their 4th quarter is like their third quarter.
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12 minutes ago, RR #1 said:
Amusing to see both McPake and that striker who never scores in the courier moaning about how rattled they get by our social media posts.
According to McPake the only time players, staff and fans should be celebrating a win is if it clinches promotion or it's a cup final. What an absolute fanny. Cant wait to see the rage on his coupon tomorrow as he dissapears down the tunnel after yet another defeat.
I think the Courier is probably more obsessed with our social media than the Pars players or staff tbh
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4 hours ago, Stellaboz said:
If you beat us for a 4th time in the league you should probably be allowed to control our media output rest or the season. It's bloody painful to think about yet another loss.
I don't think you need worry. Pretty sure this is where we turn into Pumpkins.
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Aye, realistically anything less than 6 points in the next 2 finishes us.
Beyond that,I can only repeat what others have said: league winners don't blow games like we did last Friday.
We'll limp into the play offs in all probability. Get our jotters off of Morton in all likliehood, then spend the summer grinding our gears over Centre Backs (again).
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1 hour ago, TxRover said:
Torn between five and six…if we can’t absolute ride this lot dizzy Friday night, we’re gubbed in the chase for the League…but I’m still worried!
If they werent gonna sit in and defend their 18 yard line before, then they are now. Happily take any number more positive than they have.
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1 minute ago, A_Rover_In_The_Burgh said:
I don't get how we pick up a few points and all is fine again? It's not. The flatness in the crowds tell you a lot. There's literally nothing to get you off your seat for 85 minutes of the match. I just feel we're not attractive to watch in most of the game if being honest. We were very luck against Utd, outplayed for most of the game against Ayr but fortunately they were powder puff and last night Morton outplayed us in our own patch limiting us to 1 shot on goal. That is not acceptable at home. We haven't got the balance in midfield right all season in my eyes. Yeah we've won games, a lot very fortuitously.
The only thing we haven't done is start with Matthews in midfield. I'd like to see Brown, Stanton and Matthews in a midfield 3. Also Turner didn't look too bad when he went up top against Ayr in terms of work rate but in midfield he looks absolutely lost.
I'd love to see at least one performance this season in the league when we can win by 2 or 3 goals and have a nice controlled end to a game, amen!!!
I didnt say it was fine, at the same time I don't think we have played, on the whole, poorly.
We've played to a restrictive game plan and it isnt one that is exactly going to get a crowd buzzing (the flatness of a crowd at Starks tells you f**k all useful btw) On the other hand 2 goals conceded in 3 weeks is as good a shut out as we've had this this season.
I don't think it's tenable over the rest of the season but has to be seen in the context of where we were after the Dunfermline game in terms of results.
The formation Murray chooses to use isnt built on controlling midfield and therefore possession, and it's a fairly delicate balancing act to get it to work, relying on having Stanton to drop in when we don't have it, and a centre back to step up into midfield when we do. It's about fast attacking play (and a willingness to gamble at the back) and at some point you have to concede that winning games as often as we have can't simply be down to fortune.
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The Very Meh Humza Yousaf Thread.
in The Politics Forum
Posted · Edited by renton
Yousaf is looking increasingly time limited now. I suspect a lot of the Murrell damage is already priced in, but if polling does take a further kicking then the SNP will need to do something and the unfortunately styled "continuity" candidate will be in the firing line.
Actually think the Greens reaction to recent events around Cass, Puberty blockers, the missed environmental targets and also CT reform will be interesting. Their grassroots are hopping mad and given how the SG party internal democracy works, if their disgruntled elements can push through an EGM it's not unthinkable that the Greens end up being the ones who break the Bute House agreement.
I think that would end up being really damaging for Yousaf and he'd look for all the world like a lame duck.
Then it'll be a case of how long until a GE and whether or not the SNP think it's still a recoverable situation.
If it is, they'll coronate Forbes as a social conservative who can avoid a lot of the culture war issues and who will look like a decisive break with Bute House, the Greens and previous continuity. A lot on the progressive wing won't like it (and I sure as hell don't like social conservatism) but they'll swallow it if it gets them over the line.
If it isn't they'll let Yousaf take the kicking and he'll take down the previous continuity with him. The party will then engage in some soul searching and I reckon it'll be one of the relative newbies that takes over.