GMBairn

So maybe this is my ignorance on the subject but why were we going to buy 2.4m shares, when they only own 1.4m and only getting 32% instead of the full 62%? Surely that amount of money would have been enough to buy them out twice. Was it purely because the full 800k & the MSG were staying in the club rather than them taking 400k out and leaving? ETA: Never mind, some of the other posts in the thread have kind of covered this. If this whole thing with Campbell falls through then the BTB bid will probably need to be changed, given the collapse in the relationship between the MSG/Board and the fans then no one is going to back it if they are being kept on. We are looking at £400k to buy them out with the remaining £400k going into the club I would think.

Surely the price for the club would be pretty high. Btb was going to buy out 30% I think and that was taking 800k. Stands to reason to get the rest of the msg shares would cost at least the same again.

I think the reason they are getting stick is probably because people don't know them. There are a few posters on here who obviously know them as individuals and vouch for them a lot, but myself and probably most of the support have never met them. I know exactly as much about Mark Campbell as I do about the BTB guys (which is to say the square route of f**k all), I was willing to get involved in btb because it seemed like a sound plan, it helped that a few of our fans spoke so highly about them but in reality I was putting my trust in them not being wrong for the club in exactly the same way I would need to with an outsider like Campbell. The statement they released this morning could damage their standing going forward, it sounded as though they had found something extremely important, if it turns out it was just 'Park won't accept job until it exists' they could end up looking like shit stirrers. On the other hand if they have uncovered something important our board didn't then they will have shown they were looking out for the club, I will reserve judgement but to think you won't get some negative reaction from some of the fans over a cryptic statement like that is pretty naive.

Last plan I saw had flats in that spot, even a lake in the middle to deal with/disguise the flooding. As far as I heard it will go straight into behind the goals with automated ticket barriers for season ticket holders.

People are correct to be cautious but I do have to say if this guy is a conman he is going to feel like a right dick when he realises that the current MSG have managed to convince him to part with cash for a club without a single tangible asset to strip. They would have basically convinced him to give them half a million quid in exchange for being able to make much more than that from the club but like one of those African prince email scams from 10 years ago he would just end up out of pocket.

I used to think the hotel thing was pie in the sky nonsense but there are now over 2 million tourists a year coming though falkirk. We don't have a high quality 5* star hotel and with it's proximity to the helix park and the Kelpies a nice, well run hotel at that location would have the potential to be a very profitable enterprise.

You didn't imagine it, that was me. I didn't necessarily mean we would be there in a couple of years, what I was getting at was if that is where we end up and the guy starts to recoup his investment through taking percentages of player sales or competition money then that would be pretty good as long as we were well run, had good finances and were stable in the premiership. That could easily take a decade or longer, especially to start growing a large pool of academy talent that are sell-able assets again.

Good point, considering the long term motivations of the man buying our club is a waste of time.

All things considered this could be good for the club if it goes through and their intentions are as stated. Let's be honest if we end up with a good academy, back in the premier League and challenging for Europa League qualifiers, this guy creaming some money off player sales or any European or cup cash will be a price worth paying if we are healthy and established in the premier League. I'd still like to see btb involved and it would give him a lot of credit with the fans if he sold off some of his shares to us right after buying them to put £800k plus towards all the grand plans they have outlined. It's unlikely but it would be nice.

I agree with what you have said here, the handling of everything last year was a complete disaster and the club has been on a downward trajectory for the last decade or so, I understand why people are boycotting the games as an attempt to get their point across I am just not sure that they are in a position to influence or even get the message across to the majority of the fan base who are less engaged with the day to day of the club. I wont make many games this year but that would be the case even if we had won a domestic treble, so I can't claim to be taking any kind of action. I have been talked into a road trip to peterhead on the opening day of the season though. FFS.

This is the bottom line really, the internet is a weird place. It can be football, fantasy football, computer games or movies and the community on a site like this or twitter can make it seem like the whole fanbase is up in arms about something but in reality we represent a very small cross section of the support. We get something like 3500-4000 fans a game, there are maybe 100 or so Falkirk users on this forum, less that are regularly active, even less that know whats going on at the club or know any of the board or MSG, i certainly don't know anything beyond what's discussed here and if it wasn't for speaking to Kieran in hospitality I couldn't pick anyone other than Lang out of a line-up. (although i think it is now safe to say that the stupid looking fella whos picture was getting banded about the other day is Lex Miller) I think the truth is that any loss in home crowds will be more casual fans pissed off with relegation and shite football than as part of an organised boycott.

Thanks for that, I will need months of therapy to stop the nightmares again now.

I don't really care if they are good community clubs with supporters who care, that shouldn't influence the outcome of games. You are right to say we shouldn't expect to just turn up, we will need to fight hard for every point. The ambition for the only full time team in the league however has to be to go into every game and give a bunch of part timers a tanking, week in and week out. The club have done nothing but bitch about budgets for years, now that we're probably going to be spending as much as 50% of the league combined there can be no excuses.

Some nugget at the paper read it on here or in that atrocious Facebook group and quickly realised his mistake after putting it out?

Surely in that scenario Robson would be a fine wing back if we are playing 3 centre halfs. Less defensive responsibility and taking advantage of his ability going forward. I think we will be playing a back 4 next year.

@bairnardo you don't run the bairns.com site do you?

Durnan would be fine at this level, it is clear that McKinnon is doing the old pals act. Funny to think how much of a roasting Huston got for the exact same thing, which ultimately led to his downfall and the situation we are in now and yet it is probably what is required for us just now. Plenty of these players will be a known quantity to each other and understand the league so hopefully we can hit the ground running if we actually manage to get a full team together.

Paton away is good given that he is absolutely gash and was probably on good money. Good of the fifers to help us out in this dark hour by taking on this burden.

Agreed if we played him in front of the back 4 where he belonged be was solid. The type of player that could have helped keep us up last year by actually tackling c***s and not being a total shitebag. Just let others do the fancy stuff.

Honestly everything he does in the background for the club could be amazing, he could be absolutely smashing it in loads of ways the fans don't know anything about. That doesn't really matter though when everything he has been involved with publicly has been a complete catastrophe, mostly of his own making.

'Though I’d be tempted to fire him for that fist-pump celebration at the end of extra-time alone.' That was the strangest moment of the whole match on reflection, he celebrated getting to penalties as though the players had been practising, which they obviously hadn't.