Fair enough, there are a lot of folk like that. With that in mind, my suggestion of a few drinks in Glasgow with my wife and I and you two still Stands, but if you're not up for it because of those reasons stated above then I understand. I've got a lot of respect for Adam and yourself, you have both achieved a lot in life, and I'll be honest, I did think Adam was a bit of a prat when I first started using P&B, but you've fairly tamed him lol