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I really hope we have a go for this one. It will be tough though with the players available.
I’d go:Mutch
Mercer Neilson Mcclelland Kelly
Morrison Alston Gomis Francis
Sammon Keena
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1 minute ago, ShaggerG said:
It's a huge ask with the current injury list. If we could somehow get Dixon, Telfer & Connolly back though...
If we could get even Dixon and Telfer back I believe we’d have a chance.
As it stands though we have a goalkeeper lacking confidence, a defence that can’t defend set pieces, a midfield with 3 players who don’t do anything and strikers who aren’t scoring.
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2 hours ago, Bairnardo said:
The further into the mire we get though, the more credible it seems that Hartley, though clearly FAR from blameless in what happened, was maybe a smaller part in it that previoudly thought.Not for me- the decision to sign a team of unseen youngsters on the advice of a ‘scout’ acting as an agent for many of them was Hartley’s and Hartley’s alone. That is the ultimate reason we are where we are now.
Yes, there’s an argument the board should have stepped in to stop it but I can only imagine the abuse they’d have got for preventing a popular manager signing the Chelsea under 23 captain and players from the Brighton and Watford academies.
Most managers would have walked if they were told a board made up of people like Martin Ritchie, Doug Henderson and Lex Miller were going to be approving or rejecting signings based on what they adjudged their ability to be.
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6 minutes ago, Gaz said:
He also had to go through three and a half months playing Houston's dross.
Don’t get me wrong the squad was by no means good enough but really it should never have been in 8th to begin with.
It was bang average at worst and Alex Smith showed it could get results in his two games in charge. 1 win in 10 in a run that included a 3-0 defeat to Morton and 4-2 to Queen of the South was not good with the squad Hartley had before January.Mackinnon managed better than that the following year with a far worse squad.
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5 hours ago, Trump said:
We were that far behind that 8th was about the best we could have done. That season St Mirren and Livingston went up and have been in the premier league ever since.We were 2 points off 7th when Hartley came in, having just beat Dunfermline and Morton under Alex Smith in the 2 games prior.
In fact, Inverness who were below us when he came in went on to finish in 5th place, just 2 points off the playoffs.
I’m not saying Hartley did a bad job in his first season but for me he certainly didn’t do anything exceptional imo.
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4 minutes ago, Ecosse83 said:
But but but he till only finished 8th
Good fact based post that
The second most points I believe refers to the period after January. He certainly failed to get anything at all out of the existing squad which isn’t surprising with his man management skills.
Just checked- he won 1 game prior to January and 10 after (3 of which were against a dreadful Brechin game).
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2 hours ago, Gaz said:
Houston wasn't a poor manager. He did a very good job for his. His recruitment was what let him down.
Hartley was a very good appointment (at the time) and a very good manager for his first season with us. Apart from going absolutely insane over a three-month period during the summer with us he's been a massive success everywhere else he's been.
Hartley did a decent enough job in his first season but it was hardly earth shattering.
He inherited an average squad in eighth place and finished the season in 8th place. He was also helped by the dire Brechin team that couldn’t win a game.
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2 minutes ago, Gaz said:
Our stadium is far too big
We’d be pointlessly waving goodbye to hundreds of thousands of pounds in gate receipts in the premiership if the stadium was any smaller.
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We won’t get close to teams like St Johnstone until we have a proper player scouting and recruitment system in place.
It doesn’t matter who the next manager is if we’re going to continue bringing in dross.
It’s about to be 5 years since the playoff final at Kilmarnock- we must have signed over 100 players since then and the vast majority haven’t been good enough. Which is a main reason why we’ve regressed so far as a club in that time.
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I wouldn’t expect a director of football to be picking tactics and formations. There is no pony having a manager if that’s the case and I don’t think Holt has come to the club to do that.
Holt’s remit imo is 1. Recruitment and 2. Youth development.
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Very odd interview from Holt there. He talks in riddles and reminds me of Houston’s last few weeks constantly talking about hard work and commitment.
Tbh I wouldn’t fancy being a manager working under him.
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3 hours ago, Passionate said:
would think Falkirk like most clubs trying to recruitment a new management team will not want to pay compensation, so most managers available are of the damaged goods vatiety..
To be honest I think it would depend on what the compensation amount is.
If the Rawlins identified someone who they feel would be able to meet their target of taking us to the premiership, I don’t think paying £50k-£75k or so would be an issue at all.
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6 minutes ago, 18BAIRN76 said:
I 100% agree with you. But I'd argue I'd have Buchanan over Durnan and (especially) Hall. Doyle is better than Mercer. You can't suggest Longridge is any worse than Leitch? Of course, we'd have hoped M&M could have signed better than any of these players mentioned. But they made decisions to actively keep the worst of the bunch!
Leitch and Longridge are different players. Really it’s Morrison who has replaced Longridge in the squad.
Longridge had 1 good game in 5 if he was lucky. Nowhere near good enough for one of the higher paid players at the club. Morrison has delivered much more in that position.
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4 minutes ago, 18BAIRN76 said:
Just goes to show how bad some of the Dumb and Dumbers decisions were last summer. Seems a bit mental they made active decisions to keep players like Hall, Durnan and Leitch, whilst punting Doyle, Buchanan, Longridge etc. Even worse when they bring in players like Mercer who is worse than Doyle.
I'm not for one moment suggesting the three I've mentioned are world-beaters or would have been good enough long-term, but we are in League One and M&M kept far worse. Example 4958405 of how out of their depth they were.
Neither Hall, Durnan and Leitch nor Doyle, Buchanan and Longridge are anywhere near good enough.
The three of them were quite rightly emptied.
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We don’t have the players to play 1 up front. It’s all very well saying Man City and Liverpool use that formation but they don’t have Leitch, Fotheringham and Alston as the midfield support.
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1 hour ago, roman_bairn said:
So just to be clear here, the managers have received the appropriate punishment for their failures, but you are quite happy to absolve our team of shitebags who were second to every ball for ANY responsibility for where we find ourselves?
Unbelievable.Clearly we have some players underperforming but who signed them?M and M.
15 players they’ve signed and very few have been good enough.
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32 minutes ago, TxRover said:
The other question will be is the coaching hire who can turn this around and regain the Championship the same coach who can succeed in gaining Premiership status and success, or are they potentially two different people? If they are possibly different people, then the next choice is from a wider, and possibly younger, field. If the BoD/DoF are convinced that one hire can do it all, then the list is much smaller, much more “established”, and may have to focus on an experienced coach seeking rehabilitation from previous mistakes...with all the risks that entails.
For me we need to be looking for a manager who can win us the championship and then stabilise us in the premiership. We will soon be on our 6th manager in little over 3.5 years- we can't continue with this level of management and player turnover.
Phil and Carrie Rawlins have come in with the clear objective of getting to the top flight ASAP- we need someone in who can achieve that rather than another short term firefighter.
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2 hours ago, Dunning1874 said:
He was scunnered at Motherwell with a ceiling of finishing 3rd and being runner-up in cups. The fact they fell into a relegation battle this season harms his chances of getting as good a job in England, but it would be a surprise if he dropped to a club like Dundee who are pushing to get out of the Championship, never mind anyone in League One.
It’s a non starter until we know if we’re going up, but if the Rawlins put forward a plan to get up to the premiership next year and then look for top six, he may be interested.
I also think the Rawlins would like a high profile appointment as a statement of ambition. I don’t see Darren Young really fitting that bill.
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To be honest none of the names mentioned so far excite me at all. I’d be tempted to wait and see if we go up as I think we’d get a better quality of applicant.
Realistically the Rawlins have come in to get us back to the premiership and I don’t see people like Peter Grant and Darren Young achieving that.
As others have said, the quality in the championship is not great at all at the moment and will be even worse once hearts are gone. We would be an attractive proposition imo if we get promoted and the Rawlins out the resources in place to get to the premiership.
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40 minutes ago, TxRover said:
Wondered about this line of though and searched for statements by Phil Rawlins about the Falkirk situation and couldn’t find anything. So is he scunnered with the whole shebang and writing off the investment, or is he perhaps quietly strengthening his position until he can grab the reins? Has he said anything, on or off the record?
As for his contacts, those mostly in the U.S. would be less useful for Falkirk in recruiting players, and would an MLS coach move to Scotland to coach? The MLS salary range is $30,000 to $100,000 (call it £22,000 to £73,000), and you’d likely need to bump that nicely to interest any successful coach (top end of that scale), and even an expat like Martin Rennie (coaching at the USL level, below MLS) would need a pretty good incentive as he has a established business in the U.S. that adds to his income.
The best case for Falkirk is, sadly, that this season trundles towards its inevitable cataclysmic crash, and the BoD finally relinquishes control to a competent individual or group (Rawlins is probably the ideally situated one) who decides to pump some money into the club to revive its operations, hire a competent management team and rebuild a team currently comprised of odds and sods. The other good news is Rawlins was always big on “Community” involvement and investment (both in a club and by a club). Perhaps the development squad with Ian Fergus is one of his first real moves? Is it also possible that Fergus will be in frame for the next four games, assisting Holt?
I don't see it happening, but I would be surprised if we were unable to pay the level of salary you mentioned in the event that the Rawlins identified a coach from the MLS that was willing to come to us.
M and M would have been on more than £73,000 between them.
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28 minutes ago, Trump said:
You might want to speak to him but he sure as hell won’t speak to us.It would be a long shot but may not be a non starter if we go up and the Rawlins can offer a one year plan to get back to the premiership and then a competitive budget in the top flight.
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Stephen Robinson is one I would be speaking to but not sure whether he would want to manage at this level.
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By my count we have signed 78 players in the last 3 and a half years since Houston was sacked- the vast majority not good enough.
I strongly suspect if the board had given Houston a tiny part of the money that has been spent on signing and paying off players and managers over that time to get some extra quality in, we’d have been in the premier league at the moment.10 -
5 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said:
Our budget means feck all the now when we're using it to sign shit. Houston managed to get us second in the championship playing decent football, competing with rangers and Hibs and also having a youth system.
The problem is that virtually every signing made by M and M hasn’t been good enough.
Mercer- not good enough
Hall- not good enough
Neilson- good
Mclelland- jury’s out
Deveney- not good enough
Sneddon- not good enough
Fotheringham- not good enough
Todd- not good enough
Alston- not good enough
Morrison- good
De Vita- not good enough
Francis- not good enough
Dowds- not good enough
Keena- has done nothing so far
A list of players sighed under Houston, Hartley and McKinnon would likewise show the vast majority not good enough.
Changing the manager will make no difference until we have a proper scouting and recruitment system in place. We can’t continue changing the whole squad and paying off players every 6 months.
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Restarting the youth system has to be done in a sustainable way that supports the first team rather than takes resources away from it, which it seems like Ian Fergus is doing.
We’re in league 1- we can’t afford to have 4 or 5 age groups with coaches and then be offering professional contracts to players who are never going to make it.
Far better to recruit a small group of hungry guys with potential on a part time basis who will then be offered contracts if and when good enough rather than needing to meet a quota.