Kenneth840

Not sure what you mean by object. Right to?

No. I am going by various articles that I read. Anyway he went back in. He shouldn't have and Nicola Sturgeon should have told the whole Westminster group not to go back. He went back in.

Like the wee ginger dug. Haven't read the wee ginger dugs articles for a while. Are they backed up with forensic detail of facts like WOS. I guess you will try and deny facts ffs.

No. They stood up and left the HOC then returned after lunch. Honestly. Check it out yourself.

Why? I voted Alba and what I saw were 2 MPs standing up for Scotland, a speaker of the house being unprofessional and showing his anti Scottish rage and the SNP sitting on their backsides, some even laughing along with the opposite tory benches, towards fellow Scottish MPs. My understanding is that the 2 Alba MPs may have broken Westminster parliamentary procedure, but so did the Speaker in the manner that he ejected them. Is it ok for us to play by the rules if they don't? Why didn't Ian Blackford and the whole bench of SNP members not stand up and make the point that the Speaker of the HOC was wrong in his method, and demand that the 2 Alba MPs were allowed to stay. Why didn't they show solidarity with their fellow Independence supporting colleagues in what was a breach of procedure by the house of commons? This is what is bothering me. Why didn't the SNP do anything?

Anything to do with Scottish Independence because that is what is was. You have lost your fight.

Wings over Scotland. (Cue all sorts of shit to deny etc etc etc.) Your choice whether to wake up or not. https://wingsoverscotland.com/on-their-fat-behinds/

It was a show of force, albeit a minority one, that could have done with a greater backing behind it by SNP MPs against a common enemy, so to speak. The fact the SNP didn't back up the 2 Alba MPs when the Speaker of the HOC broke the Parliamentary procedure speaks wonders. For you to describe the fight for Scottish Independence in the parliament that is holding us back as a tantrum, well I think that says it all.

No I won't stfu. Why was it bad that 2 Pro Independence MPs got kicked out of the HOC but OK for the SNP not to back them up? We are supposed to be creating unity, but it very much seems one sided at the moment. (John Nicolson) for reference.

To describe it as a publicity stunt, when they were standing up for Scotland is pretty bad. What will help the cause then? Not sure YOU know how things work. There are procedures for both MP and Speaker to follow. The Speaker did not follow procedure. So it is pointless to put forward Scotland's case in the HOC then. Are you becoming a Unionist?

The SNP don't seem to be doing it.

Why? I voted Alba and what I saw were 2 MPs standing up for Scotland, a speaker of the house being unprofessional and showing his anti Scottish rage and the SNP sitting on their backsides, some even laughing along with the opposite tory benches, towards fellow Scottish MPs. My understanding is that the 2 Alba MPs may have broken Westminster parliamentary procedure, but so did the Speaker in the manner that he ejected them. Is it ok for us to play by the rules if they don't? Why didn't Ian Blackford and the whole bench of SNP members not stand up and make the point that the Speaker of the HOC was wrong in his method, and demand that the 2 Alba MPs were allowed to stay. Why didn't they show solidarity with their fellow Independence supporting colleagues in what was a breach of procedure by the house of commons? This is what is bothering me. Why didn't the SNP do anything?

I think you are wrong. Westminster would have to accept an election that was SOLELY campaigned on Scottish Independence. Other countries have done the same. If Westminster didn't respect the result, then surely Internationally they would become even more of a pariah state. The UK is a member of the UN and signed up to its charters, so I guess they have no choice but to accept. I do not believe that it would set Scotland back decades, it could only bring Independence quicker.

I must admit I haven't read his manifesto. I will take you at your word therefore I am talking tripe. As Bojo has said no to a section 30 request and I guess the UK supreme court will rule against the Scottish Government, then the only option left is a plebiscite election. I personally don't think Yes will get a majority of seats plus over 50% of the vote so Independence will be put off for a number of years. If yes do manage to win then negotiations with Westminster should begin. We should recall our MPs from Westminster and form a convention with our MSPs, assert the competency of the Scottish Parliament, declare Independence and dissolve the Treaty of Union. If Westminster refuse to accept the result then we approach the UN and state that a democratic election is being refused recognition and that we are being forced to stay in the Union against the will of the Scottish people. Back this up with the claim of right.

Apart from the seats/votes set up of the UK franchise which Scottish mp/msp are choosing to play by. What else do you think will make a plebiscite election fail?

"He" is a "She"

I agree with your 2nd line. It has to be a plebiscite election. Westminster will try to ignore the result of a Yes victory in a plebiscite election. An election that was campaigned purely on a single issue like "Independence for Scotland", the same way Boris campaigned purely on "Get Brexit done" . Another precendent.

Why?

Oh this looks like it could be fun. What is the worse that could happen! https://murrayblackburnmackenzie.org/2021/09/10/gender-recognition-reform-are-womens-concerns-valid/

Try and meet one. Then you will find out.

Exactly how do you think that the reproductive cycle works? Not a transphobe.

Don't think so. Women without wombs and ovaries are not sexless. They are still female, women. Biologically female.

Women that cannot produce eggs are still women. Why? Because they were born with a womb and ovaries. It is unfortunate that they don't work but the body was made that way. You are still talking to someone in 2022 that appreciates facts over fiction.

The one in 5000 that have Meyer Rokitansky Kuster Hauser condition that are born without a womb produce eggs. The majority of people without a womb cannot produce eggs. Are you really this dense? No they can't. Don't try and gaslight me.