liam_barnett Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Notice on Twitter that McGurn has been allowed to play in the Scottish Cup for Stranraer this weekend, shows you how far down the pecking order he is now! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC_Lachlan Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Notice on Twitter that McGurn has been allowed to play in the Scottish Cup for Stranraer this weekend, shows you how far down the pecking order he is now! Don't see any reason why he shouldn't be allowed to play to be honest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Don't see any reason why he shouldn't be allowed to play to be honest. Neither do I. From the outside it looks like the club have caused him a bit of grief by getting him to sign a deal before we had new manager in place. It's a real shame that he's no longer playing for us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Good work, Paco. But haven't we played 158 games since the beginning of the 2011/12 season? (4 x 36 + 14) How does that affect the sums? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Good work, Paco. But haven't we played 158 games since the beginning of the 2011/12 season? (4 x 36 + 14) How does that affect the sums? He only included games between the clock changes didnt he? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Good work, Paco. But haven't we played 158 games since the beginning of the 2011/12 season? (4 x 36 + 14) How does that affect the sums? A deliberate mistake to make sure you were all reading. Obviously. I've done us out of ten matches. The only clear way to determine where the mistake was made was by counting winter matches again, which was great fun. And the winter figures are definitely correct. So I've accidentally exaggerated our form in the summer months. Revised total of: 121 points from 79 games (British Summer Time) 76 points from 79 games (Daylight Saving Time) A happy coincidence that both figures are from 79 games. We've amassed 45 points more in the same amount of matches in the summer months than in winter. To put that into context, our points totals from the completed seasons in this period have been 44, 46, 42 and 43. Or an average of 43.75 So we are more than a whole season's worth of points better in the summer than the winter, over four years. We average 1.53 points per game in the summer, which over a season would give 55 points - this would've had us fourth in 11/12, and fifth in 12/13, 13/14 and 14/15. In the winter, we average 0.96 points per game, over a season giving 35 points. This would've seen us finish ninth in 11/12, eighth in 12/13 (a point above the Pars), ninth in 13/14 and, bizarrely, sixth in 14/15 (where we did finish, with 43 points). Good spot Yoss. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 A season's worth of points difference over four years is a mental statistic. Great work though, Paco. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 The 79 games thing is a happy coincidence, makes it nice and easy to compare. So more than half as many points again in BST as against GMT, over a reasonably prolonged period of time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanCouserRRFC Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Some people on this have far too much time on their hands it seems haha. I couldn't care less about any other season, they're gone and finished. Mountains made out of mole hills. Second quarter is always tough. injuries, suspensions and poor surfaces play major parts. Training facilities, gypsy curses and the clocks changing being blamed though, Jesus that is grim reading. Points will get dropped here and there. 4-5 weeks ago boys such as Davo, Benedictus and Toshney were the best thing since sliced bread, now they're getting pelters haha. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Some people on this have far too much time on their hands it seems haha. I couldn't care less about any other season, they're gone and finished. Mountains made out of mole hills. Second quarter is always tough. injuries, suspensions and poor surfaces play major parts. Training facilities, gypsy curses and the clocks changing being blamed though, Jesus that is grim reading. Points will get dropped here and there. 4-5 weeks ago boys such as Davo, Benedictus and Toshney were the best thing since sliced bread, now they're getting pelters haha. Funny how the second quarter doesn't seem to be such a challenge for most other sides. Only Alloa don't have a better record than us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) The 79 games thing is a happy coincidence, makes it nice and easy to compare. So more than half as many points again in BST as against GMT, over a reasonably prolonged period of time. If you look at it season on season, it's not that clear cut. McGlynn's last season isn't a GMT slump, as he had a good August but from September onwards his team was taking an average of 30% of points from each month. That season wasn't just a pish second quarter, it was a pish summer, autumn, winter and was saved by a biblical ressurection in the Spring. Murray's first season, as unremarkable as it is probably remembered, wasn't that bad - in fact the team was quite consistent taking between 45-60% of points each month with one notable exception in January: in fact, over the dreaded second quarter, Murray took 50% of the available points - enough to keep his team in contention for 4th spot, only a terrible month in January really took us out of it, we eventually finished 6 points behind Livi in fourth (and obviously there was no play offs anyway, but still) Murray's second season is obviously the horror show, and hhis team goes from winning an average of 70% of all points over the first 3 months (almost championship winning form) before picking up an average of 20% over the next 6 months. The team slumped in November and never recovered.M Murray's last season includes a 3 month bad spell from October to December, after a solid if indifferent opening couple of months. From January to March the team's formed was the inverse mirror of the preceding three months, and took us close to 4th contention before the Falkirk game took us out of it, and finally the 'experimental phase' cost Murray his job by the end of April. You can look at that last season and can see that we markedly improve once McGurn and Hill come back into the defence, and Callachan and Vaughan break into the team properly. If the second season slump was caused by a too far small first team and a couple of crucial injuries (we tried to see out a large part of that season with Laidlaw in goals and Reece Donaldson infront of him), then the collapse was reduced to a slump by Murray, by acicdent or design being able to call upon a bigger squad. McKinnon to date has had the best start since Murray in 13-14, if slightly less spectacular over the first three months. So, season on season, I think you can only look at two out of 5 seasons under study, where the dreaded clocks go back collapse actually occurs, mcGylynn's last season pretty much turned to shit straight away and only recovered in the spring with a dozen Jambos in the team and Graham having recovered from his hernia. Murray's first season was solid if unspectacular, with the team baring up through autumn and only having a bad month in January. It's Murray's next two seasons that the dreaded winter slump occurs, one in which the team nosedived and never recovered and one that through some combination of luck, design and Lewis Vaughan we managed to recover, albeit with our play off hopes severely dented. It should be noted however that we were up against a couple of very strong contenders that year, and that the threshold for fourth has varied over time. Murray's last team might have made it in any other season (it might not, speculation at best but the impact of the strength of your rivals needs ot be factored in) Edited November 24, 2015 by renton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardy Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 According to Twitter, Bates has been recalled from Brechin. Must point to Toshney being out now for a wee spell...added to the fact we have Thomson still out as well. Never have had much luck with injuries. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ding Dang Doo Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 According to Twitter, Bates has been recalled from Brechin. Must point to Toshney being out now for a wee spell...added to the fact we have Thomson still out as well. Never have had much luck with injuries. Had to be done but I'm not sure if he's just back for cover if Toshney is injured, to replace Davo at centre back or to play right back. Hopefully it's just as cover but if Toshney is out I'd rather gave Ford a game at right back against Elgin. He's the only natural right back we have fit without Thomson and Toshney and the Anderson experiment hasn't worked against Livi or St Mirren. If McKinnon doesn't want to risk Ford now then what's the point in having him in the squad every week? I presume no update on Barr? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I assume the fact that Bates is being recalled means Barr is still nowhere near fit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pub car king Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I forgot Barr even existed until just now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardy Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Who? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithie Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Did Barr not go off injured, again, in a development game a couple of weeks ago? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover the Moon Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Barr would get injured just getting off the treatment table. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGQ FAE KDY Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 He must be related to daniel sturridge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebanda's Handyman Services Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Barr fucked his hamstring did he not? Quite happy with big Bates coming back. Showed a lot of promise before he was loaned out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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