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The Clyde being a river at Greenock, a river at Glasgow, and rivers not possessing 'coasts'.

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Lost count of the number of times VT and I have gone head to head on this. The Clyde's tidal influence goes all the way up to Glasgow Green so as ridiculous as it sounds, Glasgow's also on the coast (geographically speaking anyway).

If as a result of this I have to listen to a wee ned voice inviting me to stay on the 'Costa Del Glasca' on behalf of Glasgow Tourist Authority, you're fucking getting it.

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Ah, that explains why Greenock closed their coastguards this year then.

Greenock is the natural base for shipping rescues on the entire Firth of Clyde, which starts a mile or so beyond Gourock and runs all the way down to Ayr. Also known as "the Clyde coast". Not the west coast, because, well, it isn't.

Very few coastguard actions relate to incidents on the River Clyde around Greenock, because it's piss-easy to navigate. Being a river.

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Which topic's been ongoing the longest - this one or the Lorne v Square debate?

If 40,000 Greenockians say a stupid thing, it's still a stupid thing though.

Also never take a geography lesson from a history student.

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Estuary actually. wink.gif

Except upstream of Glasgow Green of course.

Uh huh. Which would be why when the Weegies left the city in their droves for the fortnight holiday to the coast, they of course meant going to Glasgow Green, rather than Largs, Saltcoats, Dunoon etc, all on the actual coast. Seems the only one stating a stupid thing here is yourself.

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Uh huh. Which would be why when the Weegies left the city in their droves for the fortnight holiday to the coast, they of course meant going to Glasgow Green, rather than Largs, Saltcoats, Dunoon etc, all on the actual coast. Seems the only one stating a stupid thing here is yourself.

Is that honestly the basis of your argument here??? Next you'll be saying Arthur's Seat isn't a hill because whenever folk in Edinburgh say they're 'hitting the hills at the weekend' they go to the Highlands, Southern Uplands etc and not the thing on their doorstep.

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Is that honestly the basis of your argument here??? Next you'll be saying Arthur's Seat isn't a hill because whenever folk in Edinburgh say they're 'hitting the hills at the weekend' they go to the Highlands, Southern Uplands etc and not the thing on their doorstep.

That's an extraordinarily weak comparison. How many people in Edinburgh use that term?

The fact of the matter is that everyone in west-central Scotland knows fine well where their river ends, where the Clyde Coast is, and that the West Coast is miles away from either. A litany of coastal towns have made their crust off this shared knowledge for generations. Greenock has not been one of them because it is a port town on the river, and always has been. Your pseudo-scientific pedantry isn't going to achieve anything here.

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That's an extraordinarily weak comparison. How many people in Edinburgh use that term?

The fact of the matter is that everyone in west-central Scotland knows fine well where their river ends, where the Clyde Coast is, and that the West Coast is miles away from either. A litany of coastal towns have made their crust off this shared knowledge for generations. Greenock has not been one of them because it is a port town on the river, and always has been. Your pseudo-scientific pedantry isn't going to achieve anything here.

Uneducated mob-rule it is then? "It is because granny* says so" doesn't really cut it I'm afraid.

Must also be pointed out that Greenock hasn't seen a boom of tourism largely because it's a shitehole with far nicer destinations just 15 mins further down the road.

*not granny danger of course

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Uneducated mob-rule it is then.

Must also be pointed out that Greenock hasn't seen a boom of tourism largely because it's a shitehole.

^^^ verge of tears

Greenock actually does an excellent pass-through trade, owing to it being easily the second (if not top) busiest port of call for cruise ships in Scotland. Not to mention its lush Esplanande, leafy West End, stunning mountain views and soon to be SPL football team.

The Clyde Riviera: We're Better Than You.

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And Riviera means:

A coastal region with a subtropical climate and vegetation, esp.

At least be consistent, VT :rolleyes:

Riviera is a metaphor for a lush, luxurious resort, therefore fitting exactly to Greenock's description on the Tail of the Bank. Riviera has no geographical meaning in its own right.

Thanks for playing anyway.

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