roman_bairn Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Makes sense. McKee will be aware of the dirt on Kenny Shiels, and specifically why he has it in for FFC. Shame Waddell cant be bothered to go and do some digging What specific dirt on Kenny Sheila? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) I've read Waddell's piece twice now and it's just utter meh!! I've pulled up Falkirk fans at games before and I've denounced the shite that's went on at Bairns/Pars' games many, many times on here - it's like he felt he *had* to say something because it was Falkirk and he chucked together a half-arsed collection of words to make some sort of half-arsed point. He was paid to write that ! I've read a thousand better posts on here from folk simply passing 5 minutes sitting on the bog. (*ahem*) Edited January 7, 2018 by Ned Nederlander 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyBlueArmy1876 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Waddell is an utter cretin. Panders to the absolute dregs of society, no wonder .net is lapping it up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerthewitness Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, NavyBlueArmy1876 said: Waddell is an utter cretin. Panders to the absolute dregs of society, no wonder .net is lapping it up I suspect Gordon was playing right into their hands (given the recent court case involving a Dunfermline fan) with this, apparently racist, cartoon. Awful. He should be sacked, in my humble opinion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy85 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Absolutely insane that Waddell is ostracised for calling out the scumbags. It appears that if a Falkirk fan doesn’t immediately join in the wagon circling then they will be on the receiving end of some quite vile personal abuse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 5 hours ago, hope street said: You would think o’hara and McKee played keepie uppie with a false eye in front of DS given the level of hysteria. Sheils accused o’hara of diving and o’hara stupidly replied along the lines of “ you need to get that fucking eye fixed” hardly crime of the century. O’hara has apologised to shiels several times and received a lengthy ban. McKee , as has been said,called Shiels and his father a c**t. A further comment was made, not about his eye and Dunfermline made a complaint about that. So McKee got a ban. Some stupid fans thought it was hilarious to throw false eyes on the pitch. No one died. KS has already said that DS isn’t that bothered. It’s others are driving the hysteria imo. How exactly do you know all this? I haven't seen any of the details published by anyone close to a credible source, so I'm curious as to where/how you're getting this information? That's a genuine question by the way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Jimmy85 said: Absolutely insane that Waddell is ostracised for calling out the scumbags. It appears that if a Falkirk fan doesn’t immediately join in the wagon circling then they will be on the receiving end of some quite vile personal abuse. Give it a rest. It's the manner in which he's criticised the club. Journalism at its worst. That picture FFS. Work of a thirteen year old kid. Your perma-outrage whether it's real or not is boring in the extreme. Everyone has accepted that the behaviour of a section of Falkirk fans was distasteful and unacceptable. I'm sure Falkirk will be doing their utmost to identify the culprits and they and the club will most likely be punished in some form. What's most important about this is that everybody learns from this experience and think in future before they act. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, FTOF said: Give it a rest. It's the manner in which he's criticised the club. Journalism at its worst. That picture FFS. Work of a thirteen year old kid. Your perma-outrage whether it's real or not is boring in the extreme. Everyone has accepted that the behaviour of a section of Falkirk fans was distasteful and unacceptable. I'm sure Falkirk will be doing their utmost to identify the culprits and they and the club will most likely be punished in some form. What's most important about this is that everybody learns from this experience and think in future before they act. Wow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, smpar said: Wow. And your point is? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, FTOF said: And your point is? I'm just astonished that you/anyone would bite to that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, smpar said: I'm just astonished that you/anyone would bite to that. I didn't bite to anything. My main point was regarding the poor quality of journalism. It also gave me a chance to point out what a boring cunt the OP is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Yeah, you really showed him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 The 5 second bust up happened months ago. Fitba players are big sweetie wives and talk. How reliable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) "That’s for them to deal with. You can only take responsibility for your own behaviour as a support." - Gordon Waddell Still don't get why the f**k I'm to take responsibility for a group of wankers, just because they're wearing the same shirt as me. I can say I find it deplorable, as if I were commenting on anyone else's actions in the world, but being near a group of arseholes doesn't associate me with them imo. Apologies if he's only saying that I need to take responsibility for my own actions, but from context it sounds like I have to take responsibility for what any Falkirk fan does, in which case I apologize wholeheartedly for that article written by a fellow Falkirk fan. Edited January 7, 2018 by Gollum 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 It’s 100% reliable, won’t suit some people’s agendas on how badly DS was abused of course. I have no agenda. It makes no odds to me what was actually said, the punishments have been handed out and the clubs are doing their best to move on. I’m just curious as to where people get their ‘facts’, as it’s often difficult to separate fact from rumour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Kinnear Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I wouldn't know what Waddell writes in any of his articles so it doesn't really bother me. I wouldn't buy either the daily or Sunday version of the *** loving rag and I wouldn't read it online. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I doubt if the McKee incident wouldve ever been taken further if it hadn't been for o'haras comments. The fact that sheils was happy to stand up at a hearing and bleat about McKee calling his dad a bad name is pretty embarrassing for a guy of his age and more akin to what happens in your local playground. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Back Post Misses Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I have no agenda. It makes no odds to me what was actually said, the punishments have been handed out and the clubs are doing their best to move on. I’m just curious as to where people get their ‘facts’, as it’s often difficult to separate fact from rumour. Have a look at some of Joe’s relations on twitter. They are clearly unhappy at what Joe has been wrongly accused of. Secondly Tam McManus said on Sportsound Joe did not mention Shiels eye, it was something else he said. Not one of 4 or 5 other guys discussing it disagreed with Tam. Maybe not the proof you require but certainly the first time people have spoken like this about it. Shiels senior and McKee by all accounts had previous at Morton. What that was I have no idea about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Back Post Misses said: Have a look at some of Joe’s relations on twitter. They are clearly unhappy at what Joe has been wrongly accused of. Secondly Tam McManus said on Sportsound Joe did not mention Shiels eye, it was something else he said. Not one of 4 or 5 other guys discussing it disagreed with Tam. Maybe not the proof you require but certainly the first time people have spoken like this about it. Shiels senior and McKee by all accounts had previous at Morton. What that was I have no idea about. Aye I heard Tam McManus talking about it yesterday, which is fair enough. I'm sure it was also Tam that was talking about McKee and Shiels Senior's history at Morton, no idea what that's about though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Falkirk players have clearly had something drummed into them by Houston or others to wind up opposition players. You saw it at EEP last season. It just got out of hand. The way the falkirk board and management handled things going right back to the Hypolite cheating has been poor. The sad thing is what Dean has had to go through just by doing his job. Ok he shouldn't have kicked out but the ref was yards away to the abuse and did f**k all. The best form of punishment would be for the Falkirk players and fans to spend a day or two with blind kids. Might make them have a wee think about how shitty they were. Its been coming for years to Falkirk fans, there's definitely a moronic element to their support. Not saying pars are perfect but let's not forget the Norrie chants. It was half the terrace at brockville with parents and kids joining in. I don't remember a single chant when the young falkirk player died of an electric shock. Before the game last Tuesday around 50 young falkirk fans walked past the main stand singing what sounded like "deans got one eye we've go at two, Norries dead and so are you" Pretty much guarantee it was them who chucked eye balls. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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