Homer Thompson Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Shadwell Dog said: Yes I very much doubt the sg gives the grants out to other businesses depending on the standard of their product. Sorry your food isnt up to much so your getting this much even though you have ten restaurants and employ hundreds of people whilst the wee cafe down the road where the home made grubs great will be getting 3 times as much even though they only employ two folk and are shut for 3 days a week. I also doubt there are many cafes who employ Michelin chefs to serve egg and chips. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, Harry Kinnear said: We don't need bailed out with government money, we have the fanbase to look after ourselves. We also have substantial investment coming into the club very soon. We will be fine. Stop fuckin whinging about it then! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mr X said: But Falkirk should be bailed out because they decided to stay full time with more staff and costs despite dropping down a division? Maybe you can get your fans to stop whinging about it then? We aren't being bailed out FFS. As a taxpayer we still have the right to complain about our money being given in such ridiculous amounts to part time organisations with small overheads whilst other industries see businesses going to the wall and people being made redundant. In no other industry is a business the size of alloa getting a free grant of half a million quid. The govt also shouldn't be bailing out organisations that haven't bothered their arse budgeting correctly due to the current circumstances. All these clubs were asked whether they could get through to the season and they all said yes. We then hit December and Morton are having to run with no manager as they are skint already. Edited December 30, 2020 by Shadwell Dog 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Kinnear Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, Mr X said: Stop fuckin whinging about it then! It's wrong though. Why when thousands are losing their jobs and businesses are being shut down left, right and centre should large wedges of cash be made to wee shitey clubs that no one gives a monkeys about just because they are playing at a higher level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgertheeuro24witness Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Stunned at the southern fermer, and George Galloway fanboy, taking the moral high ground here. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Mr X said: I also doubt there are many cafes who employ Michelin chefs to serve egg and chips. Id love to see what football players in the Scottish championship your putting at the levels of a Michelin star chef.. Standards more like sid from only fools and horses. Edited December 30, 2020 by Shadwell Dog 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: We aren't being bailed out FFS. As a taxpayer we still have the right to complain about our money being given in such ridiculous amounts to part time organisations with small overheads whilst other industries see businesses going to the wall and people being made redundant. In no other industry is a business the size of alloa getting a free grant of half a million quid. The govt also shouldn't be bailing out organisations that haven't bothered their arse budgeting correctly due to the current circumstances. All these clubs were asked whether they could get through to the season and they all said yes. We then hit December and Morton are having to run with no manager as they are skint already. Thats a valid argument, not one that I necessarily agree with though, but I can see your point. Unfortunately, its not the one the rest of your fans are making ... 1 minute ago, Harry Kinnear said: It's wrong though. Why when thousands are losing their jobs and businesses are being shut down left, right and centre should large wedges of cash be made to wee shitey clubs that no one gives a monkeys about just because they are playing at a higher level. 2 minutes ago, badgerthewitness said: Stunned at the southern fermer, and George Galloway fanboy, taking the moral high ground here. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: Id love to see what football players in the Scottish championship your putting at the levels of a Michelin star chef.. Standards more like sid the from only fools and horses. A slight exaggeration to make a point. Of course Stephen Dobbie does still play in the Championship ... remember him? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr X said: A slight exaggeration to make a point. Of course Stephen Dobbie does still play in the Championship ... remember him? Aye but even he's on his last legs these days. Was a Michelin star player a few seasons back but more little chef now unfortunately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Making your point about cutting cloth accordingly when your club is paying Dobbie a small fortune 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: Aye but even he's on his last legs these days. Was a Michelin star player a few seasons back but more little chef now unfortunately. Unfortunately, your right 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Marshmallo said: Making your point about cutting cloth accordingly when your club is paying Dobbie a small fortune And still making a profit, whats your point caller? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr X said: Unfortunately, your right He was never going to last forever unfortunately for you guys and fortunately for the rest of us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Mr X said: And still making a profit, whats your point caller? As are Falkirk, so your drivel about us running a full time squad is complete nonsense. Edited December 30, 2020 by Marshmallo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: As are Falkirk, so your drivel about us running a full time squad is complete nonsense. I assumed from the amount of complaints from Falkirk fans that the club needed the extra money. I never for a second realised that the complaints would be purely down to a sense of entitlement at levels old firm fans would cringe at. ETA - from some fans, I should point out. Its nice to see there are still some reasonable Falkirk fans out there. Edited December 30, 2020 by Mr X -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, Mr X said: I assumed from the amount of complaints from Falkirk fans that the club needed the extra money. I never for a second realised that the complaints would be purely down to a sense of entitlement at levels old firm fans would cringe at. Entitlement would be thinking you're entitled to additional emergency taxpayer funding during a global pandemic solely down to the league you play in. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, Mr X said: I assumed from the amount of complaints from Falkirk fans that the club needed the extra money. I never for a second realised that the complaints would be purely down to a sense of entitlement at levels old firm fans would cringe at. I think the issue is very much why covid grants are being given out as if they are prize money which surely should never have been the case. Every club was asked to provide info regarding running costs etc but it would appear that this has then just been ignored so you wonder why this info was ever asked for in the first place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, Marshmallo said: Entitlement would be thinking you're entitled to additional emergency taxpayer funding during a global pandemic solely down to the league you play in. It would, which Im pretty sure no clubs or fans have. Entitlement is also thinking you're entitled to more money than other clubs because they're "wee shitey clubs that no one gives a monkeys about" -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, Mr X said: It would, which Im pretty sure no clubs or fans have. Entitlement is also thinking you're entitled to more money than other clubs because they're "wee shitey clubs that no one gives a monkeys about" "Clubs" are also "businesses" who had to submit individual projections to the governing bodies. Businesses would be allocated funding based on hard numbers, not a blanket handout conducted arbitrarily. Falkirk and Thistle, for example, wouldn't suggest they should be given a more equitable share because of "wee shitey clubs that no one gives a monkeys about" because that would be ludicrous. There is no reason that a business the size of Hearts should be given the same financial support as a business the size of Alloa Athletic. It's financial support to keep businesses going and to prevent layoffs, it's not a Christmas gift or prize money. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Kinnear Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Shadwell Dog said: I think the issue is very much why covid grants are being given out as if they are prize money which surely should never have been the case. Every club was asked to provide info regarding running costs etc but it would appear that this has then just been ignored so you wonder why this info was ever asked for in the first place. This is exactly right. I would wager the likes of Hearts, Dundee and the Pars have higher running costs than the likes of Hamilton,Livingston, Ross County but they will get substantially less. It should never be about league position . Clubs have put in requested information and Doncaster and Co. have said "f**k it" we will just take the easiest option. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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